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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] x86/mm/tlb: Use async and inline messages for flushing
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 12:57:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190531105758.GO2623@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190531063645.4697-12-namit@vmware.com>

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 11:36:44PM -0700, Nadav Amit wrote:
> When we flush userspace mappings, we can defer the TLB flushes, as long
> the following conditions are met:
> 
> 1. No tables are freed, since otherwise speculative page walks might
>    cause machine-checks.
> 
> 2. No one would access userspace before flush takes place. Specifically,
>    NMI handlers and kprobes would avoid accessing userspace.
> 
> Use the new SMP support to execute remote function calls with inlined
> data for the matter. The function remote TLB flushing function would be
> executed asynchronously and the local CPU would continue execution as
> soon as the IPI was delivered, before the function was actually
> executed. Since tlb_flush_info is copied, there is no risk it would
> change before the TLB flush is actually executed.
> 
> Change nmi_uaccess_okay() to check whether a remote TLB flush is
> currently in progress on this CPU by checking whether the asynchronously
> called function is the remote TLB flushing function. The current
> implementation disallows access in such cases, but it is also possible
> to flush the entire TLB in such case and allow access.

ARGGH, brain hurt. I'm not sure I fully understand this one. How is it
different from today, where the NMI can hit in the middle of the TLB
invalidation?

Also; since we're not waiting on the IPI, what prevents us from freeing
the user pages before the remote CPU is 'done' with them? Currently the
synchronous IPI is like a sync point where we *know* the remote CPU is
completely done accessing the page.

Where getting an IPI stops speculation, speculation again restarts
inside the interrupt handler, and until we've passed the INVLPG/MOV CR3,
speculation can happen on that TLB entry, even though we've already
freed and re-used the user-page.

Also, what happens if the TLB invalidation IPI is stuck behind another
smp_function_call IPI that is doing user-access?

As said,.. brain hurts.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-31 10:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-31  6:36 [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] x86: Flush remote TLBs concurrently and async Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/12] smp: Remove smp_call_function() and on_each_cpu() return values Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/12] smp: Run functions concurrently in smp_call_function_many() Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/12] x86/mm/tlb: Refactor common code into flush_tlb_on_cpus() Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/12] x86/mm/tlb: Flush remote and local TLBs concurrently Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 11:48   ` Juergen Gross
2019-05-31 19:44     ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/12] x86/mm/tlb: Optimize local TLB flushes Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/12] KVM: x86: Provide paravirtualized flush_tlb_multi() Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/12] smp: Do not mark call_function_data as shared Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 10:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 17:50     ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/12] x86/tlb: Privatize cpu_tlbstate Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 18:48   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-31 19:42     ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/12] x86/apic: Use non-atomic operations when possible Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/12] smp: Enable data inlining for inter-processor function call Nadav Amit
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] x86/mm/tlb: Use async and inline messages for flushing Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 10:57   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-05-31 18:29     ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 19:20       ` Jann Horn
2019-05-31 20:04         ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 20:37           ` Jann Horn
2019-05-31 18:44     ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-31 19:31       ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 20:13         ` Dave Hansen
2019-05-31 20:37           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-31 20:42             ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 21:06             ` Dave Hansen
2019-05-31 21:14   ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-31 21:33     ` Nadav Amit
2019-05-31 21:47       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-31 22:07         ` Nadav Amit
2019-06-07  5:28           ` Nadav Amit
2019-06-07 16:42             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-31  6:36 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/12] x86/mm/tlb: Reverting the removal of flush_tlb_info from stack Nadav Amit

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