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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Roman Penyaev <rpenyaev@suse.de>
Cc: azat@libevent.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/13] epoll: introduce helpers for adding/removing events to uring
Date: Fri, 31 May 2019 18:53:49 +0200
Message-ID: <20190531165349.GF2606@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ef6cb59e319f185619e531c0a39bd32a@suse.de>

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 04:28:36PM +0200, Roman Penyaev wrote:
> On 2019-05-31 14:53, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 01:15:21PM +0200, Roman Penyaev wrote:
> > > On 2019-05-31 11:56, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 10:58:03AM +0200, Roman Penyaev wrote:
> > 
> > > > > +		i = __atomic_fetch_add(&ep->user_header->tail, 1,
> > > > > +				       __ATOMIC_ACQUIRE);
> > > >
> > > > afaict __atomic_fetch_add() does not exist.
> > > 
> > > That is gcc extension.  I did not find any API just to increment
> > > the variable atomically without using/casting to atomic.  What
> > > is a proper way to achieve that?
> > 
> > That's C11 atomics, and those shall not be used in the kernel. For one
> > they're not available in the minimally required GCC version (4.6).
> > 
> > The proper and only way is to use atomic_t, but also you cannot share
> > atomic_t with userspace.
> 
> Yes, that what I tried to avoid choosing c11 extension.
> 
> > 
> > The normal way of doing something like this is to have a kernel private
> > atomic_t and copy the value out to userspace using smp_store_release().
> 
> Since this path is lockless unfortunately that won't work.  So seems
> the only way is to do one more cmpxchg (sigh) or give up and take a
> look (sad sigh).

Of course it works; most of the extant buffers already have a shadow
tail and do the update to userspace with a store-release.

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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-16  8:57 [PATCH v3 00/13] epoll: support pollable epoll from userspace Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:57 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] epoll: move private helpers from a header to the source Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:57 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] epoll: introduce user structures for polling from userspace Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] epoll: allocate user header and user events ring " Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] epoll: some sanity flags checks for epoll syscalls " Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] epoll: offload polling to a work in case of epfd polled " Roman Penyaev
2019-05-21  7:51   ` Eric Wong
2019-05-22 12:54     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] epoll: introduce helpers for adding/removing events to uring Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31  9:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 11:24     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 13:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31  9:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 11:15     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 12:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 14:28         ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 16:53           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-05-31 12:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 14:21         ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 16:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 18:58             ` Roman Penyaev
2019-06-03  9:09               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-03 10:02                 ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] epoll: call ep_add_event_to_uring() from ep_poll_callback() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31  9:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 11:22     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 13:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 15:05         ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] epoll: support polling from userspace for ep_insert() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] epoll: support polling from userspace for ep_remove() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] epoll: support polling from userspace for ep_modify() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] epoll: support polling from userspace for ep_poll() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] epoll: support mapping for epfd when polled from userspace Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] epoll: implement epoll_create2() syscall Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16 10:03   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-16 10:20     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16 10:57       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-22  2:33       ` Andrew Morton
2019-05-22  9:11         ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-22 11:14         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-22 18:36           ` Andrew Morton
2019-05-31  9:55 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] epoll: support pollable epoll from userspace Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 14:48 ` Jens Axboe
2019-05-31 16:02   ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 16:54     ` Jens Axboe
2019-05-31 19:45       ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 21:09         ` Jens Axboe
2019-06-05  6:17           ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 16:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 18:50   ` Roman Penyaev

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