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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Roman Penyaev <rpenyaev@suse.de>
Cc: azat@libevent.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 06/13] epoll: introduce helpers for adding/removing events to uring
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2019 11:09:06 +0200
Message-ID: <20190603090906.GE3436@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e13f80872e5b6c96e9cd3343e27b1f1@suse.de>

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 08:58:19PM +0200, Roman Penyaev wrote:
> On 2019-05-31 18:51, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> > But like you show, it can be done. It also makes the thing wait-free, as
> > opposed to merely lockless.
> 
> You think it's better?  I did not like this variant from the very
> beginning because of the unnecessary complexity.  But maybe you're
> right.  No busy loops on user side makes it wait-free.  And also
> I can avoid c11 in kernel using cmpxchg along with atomic_t.

Imagine the (v)CPU going for an extended nap right between publishing the
new tail and writing the !0 entry. Then your userspace is stuck burning
cycles without getting anything useful done.



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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-16  8:57 [PATCH v3 00/13] epoll: support pollable epoll from userspace Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:57 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] epoll: move private helpers from a header to the source Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:57 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] epoll: introduce user structures for polling from userspace Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] epoll: allocate user header and user events ring " Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] epoll: some sanity flags checks for epoll syscalls " Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] epoll: offload polling to a work in case of epfd polled " Roman Penyaev
2019-05-21  7:51   ` Eric Wong
2019-05-22 12:54     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] epoll: introduce helpers for adding/removing events to uring Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31  9:55   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 11:24     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 13:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31  9:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 11:15     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 12:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 14:28         ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 16:53           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 12:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 14:21         ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 16:51           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 18:58             ` Roman Penyaev
2019-06-03  9:09               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-06-03 10:02                 ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] epoll: call ep_add_event_to_uring() from ep_poll_callback() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31  9:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 11:22     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 13:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 15:05         ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] epoll: support polling from userspace for ep_insert() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] epoll: support polling from userspace for ep_remove() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] epoll: support polling from userspace for ep_modify() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] epoll: support polling from userspace for ep_poll() Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] epoll: support mapping for epfd when polled from userspace Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] epoll: implement epoll_create2() syscall Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16 10:03   ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-16 10:20     ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-16 10:57       ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-22  2:33       ` Andrew Morton
2019-05-22  9:11         ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-22 11:14         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-05-22 18:36           ` Andrew Morton
2019-05-31  9:55 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] epoll: support pollable epoll from userspace Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 14:48 ` Jens Axboe
2019-05-31 16:02   ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 16:54     ` Jens Axboe
2019-05-31 19:45       ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 21:09         ` Jens Axboe
2019-06-05  6:17           ` Roman Penyaev
2019-05-31 16:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-05-31 18:50   ` Roman Penyaev

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