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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [Question] Should direct reclaim time be bounded?
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 10:43:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190703094325.GB2737@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80036eed-993d-1d24-7ab6-e495f01b1caa@oracle.com>

On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 08:15:50PM -0700, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> On 7/1/19 1:59 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:20:42AM -0700, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> >> On 4/24/19 7:35 AM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >>> On 4/23/19 6:39 PM, Mike Kravetz wrote:
> >>>>> That being said, I do not think __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL is wrong here. It
> >>>>> looks like there is something wrong in the reclaim going on.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, I will start digging into that.  Just wanted to make sure before I got
> >>>> into it too deep.
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW - This is very easy to reproduce.  Just try to allocate more huge pages
> >>>> than will fit into memory.  I see this 'reclaim taking forever' behavior on
> >>>> v5.1-rc5-mmotm-2019-04-19-14-53.  Looks like it was there in v5.0 as well.
> >>>
> >>> I'd suspect this in should_continue_reclaim():
> >>>
> >>>         /* Consider stopping depending on scan and reclaim activity */
> >>>         if (sc->gfp_mask & __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL) {
> >>>                 /*
> >>>                  * For __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL allocations, stop reclaiming if the
> >>>                  * full LRU list has been scanned and we are still failing
> >>>                  * to reclaim pages. This full LRU scan is potentially
> >>>                  * expensive but a __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL caller really wants to succeed
> >>>                  */
> >>>                 if (!nr_reclaimed && !nr_scanned)
> >>>                         return false;
> >>>
> >>> And that for some reason, nr_scanned never becomes zero. But it's hard
> >>> to figure out through all the layers of functions :/
> >>
> >> I got back to looking into the direct reclaim/compaction stalls when
> >> trying to allocate huge pages.  As previously mentioned, the code is
> >> looping for a long time in shrink_node().  The routine
> >> should_continue_reclaim() returns true perhaps more often than it should.
> >>
> >> As Vlastmil guessed, my debug code output below shows nr_scanned is remaining
> >> non-zero for quite a while.  This was on v5.2-rc6.
> >>
> > 
> > I think it would be reasonable to have should_continue_reclaim allow an
> > exit if scanning at higher priority than DEF_PRIORITY - 2, nr_scanned is
> > less than SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX and no pages are being reclaimed.
> 
> Thanks Mel,
> 
> I added such a check to should_continue_reclaim.  However, it does not
> address the issue I am seeing.  In that do-while loop in shrink_node,
> the scan priority is not raised (priority--).  We can enter the loop
> with priority == DEF_PRIORITY and continue to loop for minutes as seen
> in my previous debug output.
> 

Indeed. I'm getting knocked offline shortly so I didn't give this the
time it deserves but it appears that part of this problem is
hugetlb-specific when one node is full and can enter into this continual
loop due to __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL requiring both nr_reclaimed and
nr_scanned to be zero.

Have you considered one of the following as an option?

1. Always use the on-stack nodes_allowed in __nr_hugepages_store_common
   and copy nodes_states if necessary. Add a bool parameter to
   alloc_pool_huge_page that is true when called from set_max_huge_pages.
   If an allocation from alloc_fresh_huge_page, clear the failing node
   from the mask so it's not retried, bail if the mask is empty. The
   consequences are that round-robin allocation of huge pages will be
   different if a node failed to allocate for transient reasons.

2. Alter the condition in should_continue_reclaim for
   __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL to consider if nr_scanned < SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX.
   Either raise priority (will interfere with kswapd though) or
   bail entirely.  Consequences may be that other __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL
   allocations do not want this behaviour. There are a lot of users.

3. Move where __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL is set in a gfp_mask in mm/hugetlb.c.
   Strip the flag if an allocation fails on a node. Consequences are
   that setting the required number of huge pages is more likely to
   return without all the huge pages set.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-03  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-23  4:07 [Question] Should direct reclaim time be bounded? Mike Kravetz
2019-04-23  7:19 ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-23 16:39   ` Mike Kravetz
2019-04-24 14:35     ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-06-28 18:20       ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-01  8:59         ` Mel Gorman
2019-07-02  3:15           ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-03  9:43             ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2019-07-03 23:54               ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-04 11:09                 ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-04 15:11                   ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-10 18:42             ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-10 19:44               ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-10 23:36                 ` Mike Kravetz
2019-07-11  7:12                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-07-12  9:49                     ` Mel Gorman
     [not found] <20190712054732.7264-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2019-07-13  1:11 ` Mike Kravetz

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