From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@gmail.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
x86@kernel.org, John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@suse.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] printk/panic: Access the main printk log in panic() only when safe
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:57:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190719125753.miniwfq4nhicy76n@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190718094934.GA10041@jagdpanzerIV>
On Thu 2019-07-18 18:49:34, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (07/18/19 10:36), Petr Mladek wrote:
> > On Wed 2019-07-17 18:56:15, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > > On (07/16/19 09:28), Petr Mladek wrote:
> > > > Kernel tries hard to store and show printk messages when panicking. Even
> > > > logbuf_lock gets re-initialized when only one CPU is running after
> > > > smp_send_stop().
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, smp_send_stop() might fail on architectures that do not
> > > > use NMI as a fallback. Then printk log buffer might stay locked and
> > > > a deadlock is almost inevitable.
> > >
> > > I'd say that deadlock is still almost inevitable.
> > >
> > > panic-CPU syncs with the printing-CPU before it attempts to SMP_STOP.
> > > If there is an active printing-CPU, which is looping in console_unlock(),
> > > taking logbuf_lock in order to msg_print_text() and stuff, then panic-CPU
> > > will spin on console_owner waiting for that printing-CPU to handover
> > > printing duties.
> > >
> > > pr_emerg("Kernel panic - not syncing");
> > > smp_send_stop();
> >
> > Good point. I forgot the handover logic. Well, it is enabled only
> > around call_console_drivers(). Therefore it is not under
> > lockbuf_lock.
> >
> > I had in mind some infinite loop or deadlock in vprintk_store().
> > There was at least one long time ago (warning triggered
> > by leap second).
> >
> >
> > > If printing-CPU goes nuts under logbuf_lock, has corrupted IDT or anything
> > > else, then we will not progress with panic(). panic-CPU will deadlock. If
> > > not on
> > > pr_emerg("Kernel panic - not syncing")
> > >
> > > then on another pr_emerg(), right before the NMI-fallback.
> >
> > Nested printk() should not be problem thanks to printk_safe.
>
> Where do nested printk()-s come from? Which one of the following
> scenarios you cover in commit message:
>
> scenario 1
>
> - we have CPUB which holds logbuf_lock
> - we have CPUA which panic()-s the system, but can't bring CPUB down,
> so logbuf_lock stays locked on remote CPU
No, this scenario is not affected by this patch. It would always lead to
a deadlock.
> scenario 2
>
> - we have CPUA which holds logbuf_lock
> - we have panic() on CPUA, but it cannot bring down some other CPUB
> so logbuf_lock stays locked on local CPU, and it cannot re-init
> logbuf.
This scenario should get better handled by this patch. The difference
will be when smp_send_stop() is not able to stop all CPUs:
+ Before:
+ printk_safe_flush_on_panic() will keep logbuf_lock locked
and do nothing.
+ kmsg_dump(), console_unblank(), or console_flush_on_panic()
will deadlock when they try to get logbuf_lock(). They will
not be able to process any single line.
+ After:
+ printk_bust_lock_safe() will keep logbuf_lock locked
+ All functions using logbuf_lock will not get called.
We will not see the messages (as previously) but the
system will not deadlock.
But there is one more scenario 3:
- we have CPUB which loops or is deadlocked in IRQ context
- we have CPUA which panic()-s the system, but can't bring CPUB down,
so logbuf_lock might be takes and release from time to time
by CPUB
Hmm, this scenario might be handled a bit _worse_ by this patch:
+ Before:
+ printk_safe_flush_on_panic() will not touch logbuf_lock
The messages will get flushed according to the state of
logbuf_lock at the moment when it is being checked.
+ kmsg_dump(), console_unblank(), or console_flush_on_panic()
will be able to do their job.
+ After:
+ printk_safe_flush_on_panic(), kmsg_dump(), console_unblank(),
and console_flush_on_panic() could finish the job. But they
will get called _only_ when logbuf_lock is released at
the moment when it is being checked by printk_bust_lock_safe().
Resume:
From my POV, the 3rd scenario is the most likely one. Therefore this
patch would make more bad than good.
It might be possible to somehow detect if lockbuf_lock is released
from time the time on the non-stopped CPU. But it would be hairy.
IMHO, it is not worth it.
Thanks a lot for helping me to sort the ideas. I suggest to forget
this patch and work on lockless ringbuffer.
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-07-19 12:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-16 7:28 [PATCH 0/2] panic/printk/x86: Prevent some more printk-related deadlocks in panic() Petr Mladek
2019-07-16 7:28 ` [PATCH 1/2] printk/panic: Access the main printk log in panic() only when safe Petr Mladek
2019-07-17 9:56 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-07-18 8:36 ` Petr Mladek
2019-07-18 9:49 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-07-19 12:57 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2019-07-23 3:13 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-07-24 12:27 ` Petr Mladek
2019-07-31 6:08 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-07-31 6:59 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-07-18 10:11 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-07-16 7:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] printk/panic/x86: Allow to access printk log buffer after crash_smp_send_stop() Petr Mladek
2019-07-18 10:47 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-07-18 11:07 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2019-07-18 11:29 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-07-19 12:19 ` Petr Mladek
2019-07-18 9:59 ` [PATCH 0/2] panic/printk/x86: Prevent some more printk-related deadlocks in panic() Konstantin Khlebnikov
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