From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CC08C76186 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D084217F4 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 18:12:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727888AbfGXSM3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:12:29 -0400 Received: from shards.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.9]:49410 "EHLO shards.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726298AbfGXSM3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 24 Jul 2019 14:12:29 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2601:601:9f80:35cd::d71]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: davem-davemloft) by shards.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 69037154082D4; Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20190724.111225.2257475150626507655.davem@davemloft.net> To: ebiggers@kernel.org Cc: eric.dumazet@gmail.com, dvyukov@google.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, fw@strlen.de, i.maximets@samsung.com, edumazet@google.com, dsahern@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reminder: 99 open syzbot bugs in net subsystem From: David Miller In-Reply-To: <20190724163014.GC673@sol.localdomain> References: <20190724013813.GB643@sol.localdomain> <63f12327-dd4b-5210-4de2-705af6bc4ba4@gmail.com> <20190724163014.GC673@sol.localdomain> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.12 (shards.monkeyblade.net [149.20.54.216]); Wed, 24 Jul 2019 11:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Eric Biggers Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 09:30:14 -0700 > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 08:39:05AM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote: >> Some of the bugs have been fixed already, before syzbot found them. >> >> Why force human to be gentle to bots and actually replying to them ? >> >> I usually simply wait that syzbot is finding the bug does not repro anymore, >> but now if you send these emails, we will have even more pressure on us. >> > > First, based on experience, I'd guess about 30-45 of these are still valid. 17 > were seen in mainline in the last week, but some others are valid too. The ones > most likely to still be valid are at the beginning of the list. So let's try > not use the presence of outdated bugs as an excuse not to fix current bugs. So about half of the bugs we are to look at are already fixed and thus noise, even as estimated by you. I agree with Eric, these "reminders" are bad for the people you actually want to work on fixing these bugs. > Since the kernel community is basically in continuous bug bankruptcy and lots of I don't like this hyperbole. Please present facts and information we can actually use to improve the kernel development and bug fixing process. Thank you.