From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83082C32750 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 13:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F853217D4 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 13:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2391807AbfHBNaQ (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Aug 2019 09:30:16 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:33632 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S2404019AbfHBNaM (ORCPT ); Fri, 2 Aug 2019 09:30:12 -0400 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5BF773086222; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 13:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from dhcp-27-174.brq.redhat.com (unknown [10.43.17.136]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E74C60BF7; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 13:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dhcp-27-174.brq.redhat.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 oleg@redhat.com; Fri, 2 Aug 2019 15:30:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 15:30:01 +0200 From: Oleg Nesterov To: Christian Brauner Cc: Adrian Reber , Eric Biederman , Pavel Emelianov , Jann Horn , Dmitry Safonov <0x7f454c46@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrei Vagin , Mike Rapoport , Radostin Stoyanov Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] fork: extend clone3() to support CLONE_SET_TID Message-ID: <20190802133001.GE20111@redhat.com> References: <20190731161223.2928-1-areber@redhat.com> <20190802131943.hkvcssv74j25xmmt@brauner.io> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20190802131943.hkvcssv74j25xmmt@brauner.io> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.79 on 10.5.11.12 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.42]); Fri, 02 Aug 2019 13:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 08/02, Christian Brauner wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 06:12:22PM +0200, Adrian Reber wrote: > > The main motivation to add CLONE_SET_TID to clone3() is CRIU. > > > > To restore a process with the same PID/TID CRIU currently uses > > /proc/sys/kernel/ns_last_pid. It writes the desired (PID - 1) to > > ns_last_pid and then (quickly) does a clone(). This works most of the > > time, but it is racy. It is also slow as it requires multiple syscalls. > > Can you elaborate how this is racy, please. Afaict, CRIU will always > usually restore in a new pid namespace that it controls, right? Why? No. For example you can checkpoint (not sure this is correct word) a single process in your namespace, then (try to restore) it. > What is > the exact race? something else in the same namespace can fork() right after criu writes the pid-for-restore into ns_last_pid. Oleg.