From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 02:40:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190805023106-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <494ac30d-b750-52c8-b927-16cd4b9414c4@redhat.com>
On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 12:41:45PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>
> On 2019/8/5 下午12:36, Jason Wang wrote:
> >
> > On 2019/8/2 下午10:27, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 09:46:13AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 05:40:07PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > > This must be a proper barrier, like a spinlock, mutex, or
> > > > > > synchronize_rcu.
> > > > >
> > > > > I start with synchronize_rcu() but both you and Michael raise some
> > > > > concern.
> > > > I've also idly wondered if calling synchronize_rcu() under the various
> > > > mm locks is a deadlock situation.
> > > >
> > > > > Then I try spinlock and mutex:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) spinlock: add lots of overhead on datapath, this leads 0
> > > > > performance
> > > > > improvement.
> > > > I think the topic here is correctness not performance improvement
> > > The topic is whether we should revert
> > > commit 7f466032dc9 ("vhost: access vq metadata through kernel
> > > virtual address")
> > >
> > > or keep it in. The only reason to keep it is performance.
> >
> >
> > Maybe it's time to introduce the config option?
>
>
> Or does it make sense if I post a V3 with:
>
> - introduce config option and disable the optimization by default
>
> - switch from synchronize_rcu() to vhost_flush_work(), but the rest are the
> same
>
> This can give us some breath to decide which way should go for next release?
>
> Thanks
As is, with preempt enabled? Nope I don't think blocking an invalidator
on swap IO is ok, so I don't believe this stuff is going into this
release at this point.
So it's more a question of whether it's better to revert and apply a clean
patch on top, or just keep the code around but disabled with an ifdef as is.
I'm open to both options, and would like your opinion on this.
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Now as long as all this code is disabled anyway, we can experiment a
> > > bit.
> > >
> > > I personally feel we would be best served by having two code paths:
> > >
> > > - Access to VM memory directly mapped into kernel
> > > - Access to userspace
> > >
> > >
> > > Having it all cleanly split will allow a bunch of optimizations, for
> > > example for years now we planned to be able to process an incoming short
> > > packet directly on softirq path, or an outgoing on directly within
> > > eventfd.
> >
> >
> > It's not hard consider we've already had our own accssors. But the
> > question is (as asked in another thread), do you want permanent GUP or
> > still use MMU notifiers.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-05 6:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-31 8:46 [PATCH V2 0/9] Fixes for metadata accelreation Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 1/9] vhost: don't set uaddr for invalid address Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 2/9] vhost: validate MMU notifier registration Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 3/9] vhost: fix vhost map leak Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 4/9] vhost: reset invalidate_count in vhost_set_vring_num_addr() Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 13:29 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 19:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 19:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01 5:03 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 5/9] vhost: mark dirty pages during map uninit Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 6/9] vhost: don't do synchronize_rcu() in vhost_uninit_vq_maps() Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 7/9] vhost: do not use RCU to synchronize MMU notifier with worker Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:50 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 12:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-07-31 13:28 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 19:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-01 5:02 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-01 14:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02 9:40 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 12:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-02 14:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-02 17:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-03 21:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-04 0:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-04 8:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05 4:39 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-06 11:53 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-06 13:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-06 13:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-05 4:36 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05 4:41 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05 6:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2019-08-05 8:24 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05 6:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05 8:22 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05 4:20 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-06 12:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-08-07 6:49 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-02 14:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05 4:33 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-05 6:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05 8:21 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 18:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01 8:06 ` Jason Wang
2019-08-03 21:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-05 8:18 ` Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 8/9] vhost: correctly set dirty pages in MMU notifiers callback Jason Wang
2019-07-31 8:46 ` [PATCH V2 9/9] vhost: do not return -EAGIAN for non blocking invalidation too early Jason Wang
2019-07-31 9:59 ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-31 10:05 ` Jason Wang
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