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From: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"v4 . 18+" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Doug Smythies <doug.smythies@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 2/2] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Implement ->resolve_freq()
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 09:40:48 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190806041048.ksqs3l5bzsakaael@vireshk-i7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2676200.jfxhmTd764@kreacher>

On 02-08-19, 11:28, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Friday, August 2, 2019 11:17:55 AM CEST Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:44 AM Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Intel pstate driver exposes min_perf_pct and max_perf_pct sysfs files,
> > > which can be used to force a limit on the min/max P state of the driver.
> > > Though these files eventually control the min/max frequencies that the
> > > CPUs will run at, they don't make a change to policy->min/max values.
> > 
> > That's correct.
> > 
> > > When the values of these files are changed (in passive mode of the
> > > driver), it leads to calling ->limits() callback of the cpufreq
> > > governors, like schedutil. On a call to it the governors shall
> > > forcefully update the frequency to come within the limits.
> > 
> > OK, so the problem is that it is a bug to invoke the governor's ->limits()
> > callback without updating policy->min/max, because that's what
> > "limits" mean to the governors.
> > 
> > Fair enough.
> 
> AFAICS this can be addressed by adding PM QoS freq limits requests of each CPU to
> intel_pstate in the passive mode such that changing min_perf_pct or max_perf_pct
> will cause these requests to be updated.

Right, that sounds like a good plan.

But that will never make it to the stable kernels as there will be a
long dependency of otherwise unrelated patches to get that done. My
initial thought was to get this patch merged as it is and then later
migrate to QoS, but since this patch doesn't fix ondemand and
conservative, this patch isn't good enough as well.

Maybe we should add the regular notifier based solution first, mark it
for stable kernels, and then add the QoS specific solution ?

-- 
viresh

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-08-06  4:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-02  5:44 [PATCH V3 1/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Don't skip freq update when limits change Viresh Kumar
2019-08-02  5:44 ` [PATCH V3 2/2] cpufreq: intel_pstate: Implement ->resolve_freq() Viresh Kumar
2019-08-02  9:17   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-02  9:28     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-03 15:00       ` Doug Smythies
2019-08-05  8:35         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-06  4:10       ` Viresh Kumar [this message]
2019-08-06  8:05         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-02  9:11 ` [PATCH V3 1/2] cpufreq: schedutil: Don't skip freq update when limits change Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-08-03  0:00   ` Doug Smythies

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