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From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
To: Paul Cercueil <paul@crapouillou.net>
Cc: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	od@zcrc.me, linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7] pwm: jz4740: Make PWM start with the active part
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 23:58:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190812215853.hbhihhtvdziarj3y@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1565643001.2007.2@crapouillou.net>

On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 10:50:01PM +0200, Paul Cercueil wrote:
> 
> 
> Le lun. 12 août 2019 à 7:55, Uwe =?iso-8859-1?q?Kleine-K=F6nig?=
> <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de> a écrit :
> > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 07:33:24PM +0200, Paul Cercueil wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  Le ven. 9 août 2019 à 19:10, Uwe =?iso-8859-1?q?Kleine-K=F6nig?=
> > >  <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de> a écrit :
> > >  > On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 02:30:30PM +0200, Paul Cercueil wrote:
> > >  > >  The PWM will always start with the inactive part. To counter
> > > that,
> > >  > >  when PWM is enabled we switch the configured polarity, and use
> > >  > >  'period - duty + 1' as the real duty.
> > >  >
> > >  > Where does the + 1 come from? This looks wrong. (So if duty=0 is
> > >  > requested you use duty = period + 1?)
> > > 
> > >  You'd never request duty == 0, would you?
> > > 
> > >  Your duty must always be in the inclusive range [1, period]
> > >  (hardware values, not ns). A duty of 0 is a hardware fault
> > >  (on the jz4740 it is).
> > 
> > From the PWM framework's POV duty cycle = 0 is perfectly valid. Similar
> > to duty == period. Not supporting dutz cycle 0 is another limitation of
> > your PWM that should be documented.
> > 
> > For actual use cases of duty cycle = 0 see drivers/hwmon/pwm-fan.c or
> > drivers/leds/leds-pwm.c.
> 
> Perfectly valid for the PWM framework, maybe; but what is the expected
> output then? A constant inactive state?

Yes, a constant inactive state is expected. This is consistent and in a
similar way when using duty == period an constant active output is
expected.

> Then I guess I can just disable the PWM output in the driver when
> configured with duty == 0.

Some time ago I argued with Thierry that we could drop the concept of
enabled/disabled for a PWM because a disabled PWM is supposed to behave
identically to duty=0. This is however only nearly true because with
duty=0 the time the PWM is inactive still is a multiple of the period.

I tend to agree that disabling the PWM when duty=0 is requested is
better than to fail the request (or configure for duty=1 $whateverunit).
I'm looking forward to what Thierry's opinion is here.

> > >  If you request duty == 1 (the minimum), then the new duty is equal
> > >  to (period - 1 + 1) == period, which is the maximum of your range.
> > > 
> > >  If you request duty == period (the maximum), then the new duty
> > >  calculated is equal to (period - period + 1) == 1, which is the
> > >  minimum of your range.

Note that the wrong border (because duty=0 is impossible for your
hardware) shifts the whole space. The right inverse of duty = period - 1
is duty = 1, isn't it?

> > > > >  Signed-off-by: Paul Cercueil <paul@crapouillou.net>
> > > > >  ---
> > > > >   drivers/pwm/pwm-jz4740.c | 22 +++++++++++++---------
> > > > >   1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
> > > > >
> > > > >  diff --git a/drivers/pwm/pwm-jz4740.c b/drivers/pwm/pwm-jz4740.c
> > > > >  index 85e2110aae4f..8df898429d47 100644
> > > > >  --- a/drivers/pwm/pwm-jz4740.c
> > > > >  +++ b/drivers/pwm/pwm-jz4740.c
> > > > >  @@ -121,6 +121,7 @@ static int jz4740_pwm_apply(struct pwm_chip *chip, struct pwm_device *pwm,
> > > > >   		   *parent_clk = clk_get_parent(clk);
> > > > >   	unsigned long rate, parent_rate, period, duty;
> > > > >   	unsigned long long tmp;
> > > > >  +	bool polarity_inversed;
> > > > >   	int ret;
> > > > >
> > > > >   	parent_rate = clk_get_rate(parent_clk);
> > > > >  @@ -183,24 +184,27 @@ static int jz4740_pwm_apply(struct pwm_chip
> > > > > *chip, struct pwm_device *pwm,
> > > > >   	/* Reset counter to 0 */
> > > > >   	regmap_write(jz4740->map, TCU_REG_TCNTc(pwm->hwpwm), 0);
> > > > >
> > > > >  -	/* Set duty */
> > > > >  -	regmap_write(jz4740->map, TCU_REG_TDHRc(pwm->hwpwm), duty);
> > > > >  -
> > > > >   	/* Set period */
> > > > >   	regmap_write(jz4740->map, TCU_REG_TDFRc(pwm->hwpwm), period);
> > > > >
> > > > >  +	/*
> > > > >  +	 * The PWM will always start with the inactive part. To counter that,
> > > > >  +	 * when PWM is enabled we switch the configured polarity, and use
> > > > >  +	 * 'period - duty + 1' as the real duty.
> > > > >  +	 */
> > > > >  +
> > > > >  +	/* Set duty */
> > > > >  +	regmap_write(jz4740->map, TCU_REG_TDHRc(pwm->hwpwm), period - duty + 1);
> > > > >  +
> > > >
> > > > Before you set duty first, then period, now you do it the other way
> > > > round. Is there a good reason?
> > > 
> > >  To move it below the comment that explains why we use 'period - duty + 1'.
> > > 
> > >  We modify that line anyway, so it's not like it makes the patch much more
> > >  verbose.
> > 
> > It doesn't make it more verbose, but that's not the background of my
> > question. For most(?) PWM implementation the order of hardware accesses
> > matters and introducing such a difference as an unneeded side effect
> > isn't optimal.
> 
> There's no side effect. The PWM is disabled when reconfigured.

Then please mention it in the commit log.

Best regards
Uwe

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Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-König            |
Industrial Linux Solutions                 | http://www.pengutronix.de/  |

  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-12 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-09 12:30 [PATCH 0/7] pwm: jz4740: Driver update Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 1/7] pwm: jz4740: Obtain regmap from parent node Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 16:51   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 17:04     ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-12  6:18       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 2/7] pwm: jz4740: Use clocks from TCU driver Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 16:55   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 3/7] pwm: jz4740: Drop dependency on MACH_INGENIC Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 16:41   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 21:40     ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-12  6:09       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 4/7] pwm: jz4740: Improve algorithm of clock calculation Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 17:05   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 17:14     ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-12  6:15       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-12 20:43         ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-12 21:48           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-12 22:25             ` Paul Cercueil
     [not found]             ` <1565648183.2007.3@crapouillou.net>
2019-08-13  5:27               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-13 11:01                 ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-13 12:33                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-13 12:47                     ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-13 14:09                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-14 16:10                         ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-14 17:32                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-10-21 12:47                             ` Paul Cercueil
2020-02-12  7:29                               ` About rounding in the clk framework [Was: Re: [PATCH 4/7] pwm: jz4740: Improve algorithm of clock calculation] Uwe Kleine-König
2020-04-14  9:24                                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-21 13:57                                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 5/7] pwm: jz4740: Allow selection of PWM channels 0 and 1 Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 6/7] pwm: jz4740: Make PWM start with the active part Paul Cercueil
2019-08-09 17:10   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-09 17:33     ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-12  5:55       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2019-08-12 20:50         ` Paul Cercueil
2019-08-12 21:58           ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2019-09-20 22:52             ` Thierry Reding
2019-08-09 12:30 ` [PATCH 7/7] pwm: jz4740: document known limitations Paul Cercueil

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