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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/5] vsock/virtio: limit the memory used per-socket
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2019 02:56:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190901024525-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190830094059.c7qo5cxrp2nkrncd@steredhat>

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:40:59AM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:04:29AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 01:30:26PM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
> > > Since virtio-vsock was introduced, the buffers filled by the host
> > > and pushed to the guest using the vring, are directly queued in
> > > a per-socket list. These buffers are preallocated by the guest
> > > with a fixed size (4 KB).
> > > 
> > > The maximum amount of memory used by each socket should be
> > > controlled by the credit mechanism.
> > > The default credit available per-socket is 256 KB, but if we use
> > > only 1 byte per packet, the guest can queue up to 262144 of 4 KB
> > > buffers, using up to 1 GB of memory per-socket. In addition, the
> > > guest will continue to fill the vring with new 4 KB free buffers
> > > to avoid starvation of other sockets.
> > > 
> > > This patch mitigates this issue copying the payload of small
> > > packets (< 128 bytes) into the buffer of last packet queued, in
> > > order to avoid wasting memory.
> > > 
> > > Reviewed-by: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
> > 
> > This is good enough for net-next, but for net I think we
> > should figure out how to address the issue completely.
> > Can we make the accounting precise? What happens to
> > performance if we do?
> > 
> 
> Since I'm back from holidays, I'm restarting this thread to figure out
> how to address the issue completely.
> 
> I did a better analysis of the credit mechanism that we implemented in
> virtio-vsock to get a clearer view and I'd share it with you:
> 
>     This issue affect only the "host->guest" path. In this case, when the
>     host wants to send a packet to the guest, it uses a "free" buffer
>     allocated by the guest (4KB).
>     The "free" buffers available for the host are shared between all
>     sockets, instead, the credit mechanism is per-socket, I think to
>     avoid the starvation of others sockets.
>     The guests re-fill the "free" queue when the available buffers are
>     less than half.
> 
>     Each peer have these variables in the per-socket state:
>        /* local vars */
>        buf_alloc        /* max bytes usable by this socket
>                            [exposed to the other peer] */
>        fwd_cnt          /* increased when RX packet is consumed by the
>                            user space [exposed to the other peer] */
>        tx_cnt 	        /* increased when TX packet is sent to the other peer */
> 
>        /* remote vars  */
>        peer_buf_alloc   /* peer's buf_alloc */
>        peer_fwd_cnt     /* peer's fwd_cnt */
> 
>     When a peer sends a packet, it increases the 'tx_cnt'; when the
>     receiver consumes the packet (copy it to the user-space buffer), it
>     increases the 'fwd_cnt'.
>     Note: increments are made considering the payload length and not the
>     buffer length.
> 
>     The value of 'buf_alloc' and 'fwd_cnt' are sent to the other peer in
>     all packet headers or with an explicit CREDIT_UPDATE packet.
> 
>     The local 'buf_alloc' value can be modified by the user space using
>     setsockopt() with optname=SO_VM_SOCKETS_BUFFER_SIZE.
> 
>     Before to send a packet, the peer checks the space available:
>     	credit_available = peer_buf_alloc - (tx_cnt - peer_fwd_cnt)
>     and it will send up to credit_available bytes to the other peer.
> 
> Possible solutions considering Michael's advice:
> 1. Use the buffer length instead of the payload length when we increment
>    the counters:
>   - This approach will account precisely the memory used per socket.
>   - This requires changes in both guest and host.
>   - It is not compatible with old drivers, so a feature should be negotiated.
> 2. Decrease the advertised 'buf_alloc' taking count of bytes queued in
>    the socket queue but not used. (e.g. 256 byte used on 4K available in
>    the buffer)
>   - pkt->hdr.buf_alloc = buf_alloc - bytes_not_used.
>   - This should be compatible also with old drivers.
> 
> Maybe the second is less invasive, but will it be too tricky?
> Any other advice or suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Stefano

OK let me try to clarify.  The idea is this:

Let's say we queue a buffer of 4K, and we copy if len < 128 bytes.  This
means that in the worst case (128 byte packets), each byte of credit in
the socket uses up 4K/128 = 16 bytes of kernel memory. In fact we need
to also account for the virtio_vsock_pkt since I think it's kept around
until userspace consumes it.

Thus given X buf alloc allowed in the socket, we should publish X/16
credits to the other side. This will ensure the other side does not send
more than X/16 bytes for a given socket and thus we won't need to
allocate more than X bytes to hold the data.

We can play with the copy break value to tweak this.




  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-01  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-17 11:30 [PATCH v4 0/5] vsock/virtio: optimizations to increase the throughput Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-17 11:30 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] vsock/virtio: limit the memory used per-socket Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 14:04   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-29 15:36     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 15:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-29 16:19         ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 16:50           ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 19:10             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-30  9:35               ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-30 20:42                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01 10:47                   ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-08-01 13:21                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-01 13:36                       ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-09-01  8:26                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-01 10:17                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-02  9:57                             ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-09-02 15:23                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-03  4:39                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-03  7:45                                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-09-03  7:52                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-03  8:00                                     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 16:01       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-29 16:41         ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 19:33           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-08-30  9:40     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-09-01  6:56       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2019-09-02  8:39         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-09-02  8:55           ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-10-11 13:40         ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-10-11 14:11           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-10-11 14:23             ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-10-14  8:17           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-10-14  8:21             ` Jason Wang
2019-10-14  8:38               ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-17 11:30 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] vsock/virtio: reduce credit update messages Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-22  8:36   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-09-03  4:38   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-09-03  7:31     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-09-03  7:38       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-17 11:30 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] vsock/virtio: fix locking in virtio_transport_inc_tx_pkt() Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-17 14:51   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-18  7:43     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-22  8:53   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-17 11:30 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] vhost/vsock: split packets to send using multiple buffers Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-17 14:54   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-18  7:50     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-18  8:13       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-18  9:37         ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-18 11:35           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-19  8:08             ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-19  8:21               ` Jason Wang
2019-07-19  8:39                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-19  8:51                   ` Jason Wang
2019-07-19  9:20                     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-22  9:06   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-17 11:30 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] vsock/virtio: change the maximum packet size allowed Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-17 14:59   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-18  7:52     ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-18 12:33       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-19  8:29         ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-22  9:07   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-22  9:08 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] vsock/virtio: optimizations to increase the throughput Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-22  9:14   ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-29 13:12     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-07-29 13:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-07-30  9:40   ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-07-30 10:03     ` Jason Wang
2019-07-30 15:38       ` Stefano Garzarella
2019-09-03  8:02 ` request for stable (was Re: [PATCH v4 0/5] vsock/virtio: optimizations to increase the throughput) Michael S. Tsirkin

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