From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=3.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58006C4CECE for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB68214D9 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:15:57 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1568654157; bh=79pepAEYn/V53T4640bz6gLw78E9AvaDTSLM7JrIR58=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:List-ID:From; b=AXbkwwtxhSrtGCNH2qgAuVH6wc1D0r+i1nl20vLTcy0sDc9HJMWW64xnStgr6y7qn yA3ucJk/lHb4XPFjuguLRvPfJWv0OEI9sm7RT9nlN7JNHHRmkHStDvcUlhv76xfw9W XgI1Q/6dOB5dVK1AgJYcIx8RHUvihwAE71+usI78= Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1731320AbfIPRP4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 13:15:56 -0400 Received: from heliosphere.sirena.org.uk ([172.104.155.198]:45598 "EHLO heliosphere.sirena.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1729797AbfIPRP4 (ORCPT ); Mon, 16 Sep 2019 13:15:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sirena.org.uk; s=20170815-heliosphere; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=pKYQCMu5Ew9eTX6pbhaq2BMM6o7kuFp6qMQrSf8Ncmg=; b=IZkc4kQTdFury5z5agwZqDsTF OD425v2AQe+39GC5L9AFsW6Z4Fmrbv7hueDCeEs5GC11uUplxLCPentN1Vps2kgpwF7orC+/KiWi+ GwXkixQeEb6I0/ggQ6QFKY3h4v8zWT/R2vxHq0ND1b+iLIKZtapGuPmCmgbpmo9I2nV2s=; Received: from cpc102320-sgyl38-2-0-cust46.18-2.cable.virginm.net ([82.37.168.47] helo=ypsilon.sirena.org.uk) by heliosphere.sirena.org.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1i9ubP-0005EI-CJ; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 17:15:51 +0000 Received: by ypsilon.sirena.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5F6892741A0D; Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:15:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 18:15:50 +0100 From: Mark Brown To: "Martin K. Petersen" Cc: Dan Carpenter , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH v2 3/3] libnvdimm, MAINTAINERS: Maintainer Entry Profile Message-ID: <20190916171550.GJ4352@sirena.co.uk> References: <156821692280.2951081.18036584954940423225.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> <156821693963.2951081.11214256396118531359.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> <20190911184332.GL20699@kadam> <9132e214-9b57-07dc-7ee2-f6bc52e960c5@kernel.dk> <20190916070101.GE18977@kadam> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Y3hCyKCCnioDaTIs" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Cookie: Man and wife make one fool. User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --Y3hCyKCCnioDaTIs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 01:08:45PM -0400, Martin K. Petersen wrote: > Vendor driver submissions, however, are generally huge. Sometimes 50+ > patches per submission window. And during this window I often get on the > order of 10 to 20 patches for the same driver in the fixes tree. It is > not always easy to determine whether a bug fix series is for one tree or > the other. I get the impression that a lot of vendors just don't distinguish and only really care about getting things upstream, especially in the embedded world many of them realistically expect to be shipping a pile of out of tree patches to anyone using anything other than mainline anyway so it's not super clear to them that it's worthwhile. This goes back to the converstations about stable and how vendors interact with that. --Y3hCyKCCnioDaTIs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAABCgAdFiEEreZoqmdXGLWf4p/qJNaLcl1Uh9AFAl1/w0UACgkQJNaLcl1U h9CWZQf/bJEaAhJ2Jmw6j0ouL6Ar57UT+tZpuzfw210a2H0xjdN9gERqaSmt7vtN oC3gvj3MXjUgszuLCeTTYNskiNrgmZq9yICZh0tLEUk8Qi21qZTnyLr7yOMxFinv rIG4zKkc2OY1M9RZEEasl78vgmX/WE8a1umabatF7a1QNes98pnoxaO+LF/VOJVM s3eNaantTut35U3PDDf5/F4I2KGof3xBq3lXhLAh8FfAGWT2DUSQdjlRE67Mg58b 2UTgwcmcdAWDHYQpdEOhotF7vSnWWbm5LZ9djO4q2CZFD+HTCCtN1NpXpusR5RSI 3JtgUwuHa8/ucGJ5O7yvSmL8FEw4cg== =sHVd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Y3hCyKCCnioDaTIs--