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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
	Anders Roxell <anders.roxell@linaro.org>,
	"open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK" 
	<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Kselftest update for Linux 5.4-rc1
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 13:52:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190922115247.GA2679387@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190922112555.GB122003@gmail.com>

On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 01:25:55PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:35 AM Brendan Higgins
> > <brendanhiggins@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry about that. I am surprised that none of the other reviewers
> > > brought this up.
> > 
> > I think I'm "special".
> > 
> > There was some other similar change a few years ago, which I
> > absolutely hated because of how it broke autocomplete for me. Very few
> > other people seemed to react to it.
> 
> FWIW, I am obsessively sensitive to autocomplete and overall source code 
> file hieararchy and nomenclature details as well, so it's not just you.
> 
> Beyond the muscle memory aspect, nonsensical naming and inanely flat file 
> hierarchies annoy kernel developers and makes it harder for newbies to 
> understand the kernel source as well.
> 
> The less clutter, the more organization, the better - and there's very 
> few valid technical reasons to add any new files or directories to the 
> top level directory - we should probably *remove* quite a few.
> 
> For example 'firmware/' was recently moved to drivers/firmware/, and in a 
> similar fashion about a third of the remaining 22 directories should 
> probably be moved too:
> 
>   drwxr-xr-x    arch
>   drwxr-xr-x    block
>   drwxr-xr-x    certs           # move to build/certs/ dir
>   drwxr-xr-x    crypto          # move to kernel/crypto/ or security/crypto/
>   drwxr-xr-x    Documentation
>   drwxr-xr-x    drivers
>   drwxr-xr-x    fs
>   drwxr-xr-x    include
>   drwxr-xr-x    init
>   drwxr-xr-x    ipc             # move to kernel/ipc/
>   drwxr-xr-x    kernel
>   drwxr-xr-x    lib
>   drwxr-xr-x    LICENSES
>   drwxr-xr-x    mm
>   drwxr-xr-x    net
>   drwxr-xr-x    samples         # move to Documentation/samples/
>   drwxr-xr-x    scripts         # move to build/scripts/
>   drwxr-xr-x    security
>   drwxr-xr-x    sound           # move to drivers/sound/
>   drwxr-xr-x    tools
>   drwxr-xr-x    usr             # move to build/usr/
>   drwxr-xr-x    virt            # move to the already existing drivers/virt/
> 
>   -rw-r--r--    COPYING
>   -rw-r--r--    CREDITS
>   -rw-r--r--    Kbuild
>   -rw-r--r--    Kconfig
>   -rw-r--r--    MAINTAINERS
>   -rw-r--r--    Makefile
>   -rw-r--r--    README
> 
> There's a few borderline ones:
> 
>  - 'block' could in principle move to drivers/block/core/ but it's fine 
>    at the top level too I think.
> 
>  - 'init' could in principle be moved to kernel/init/ - but it's not 
>    wrong at the top level either.
> 
> The remaining top level hierarchy would look pretty sweet and short:
> 
>   drwxr-xr-x    arch
>   drwxr-xr-x    block
>   drwxr-xr-x    build             # new
>   drwxr-xr-x    Documentation
>   drwxr-xr-x    drivers
>   drwxr-xr-x    fs
>   drwxr-xr-x    include
>   drwxr-xr-x    init
>   drwxr-xr-x    kernel
>   drwxr-xr-x    lib
>   drwxr-xr-x    LICENSES
>   drwxr-xr-x    mm
>   drwxr-xr-x    net
>   drwxr-xr-x    security
>   drwxr-xr-x    tools
> 
>   -rw-r--r--    COPYING
>   -rw-r--r--    CREDITS
>   -rw-r--r--    Kbuild
>   -rw-r--r--    Kconfig
>   -rw-r--r--    MAINTAINERS
>   -rw-r--r--    Makefile
>   -rw-r--r--    README
> 
> I'm volunteering to do this (in a scripted, repeatable, reviewable, 
> tweakable and "easy to execute in a quiet moment" fashion), although
> I also expect you to balk at the churn. :-)

I for one would love the above changes.  And I'm the one that has to
deal with all of the backporting issues that arise with stable backports :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-22 11:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-17 19:26 [GIT PULL] Kselftest update for Linux 5.4-rc1 Shuah Khan
2019-09-20 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-20 16:26   ` Randy Dunlap
     [not found]   ` <CAKRRn-edxk9Du70A27V=d3Na73fh=fVvGEVsQRGROrQm05YRrA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-09-20 16:35     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-09-20 16:51       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-20 18:03         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-09-20 18:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-20 18:16             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-09-20 18:06         ` Shuah Khan
2019-09-22 11:25         ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-22 11:52           ` Greg KH [this message]
2019-09-23 14:44             ` Shuah Khan
2019-09-23 19:43               ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-23 19:52                 ` Randy Dunlap
2019-09-23 20:29                   ` Shuah Khan
2019-09-23 20:53                     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-23 21:11                       ` Shuah Khan
2019-09-23 20:08             ` [RFC, Tree] De-clutter the top level directory, move ipc/ => kernel/ipc/, samples/ => Documentation/samples/ and sound/ => drivers/sound/ Ingo Molnar
2019-09-24 11:31               ` [Tree, v2] " Ingo Molnar
2019-09-24 15:28                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-24 18:41                   ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-25 23:00                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-23 23:54           ` [GIT PULL] Kselftest update for Linux 5.4-rc1 Tim.Bird
2019-09-24  8:07             ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-26 12:52           ` David Sterba
2019-09-27 13:52           ` Pavel Machek
2019-10-03  9:08           ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-09-22 12:29 Alexey Dobriyan
2019-09-23 22:40 Shuah Khan
2019-09-26 20:10 ` pr-tracker-bot

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