From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Brendan Higgins <brendanhiggins@google.com>,
Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>,
Anders Roxell <anders.roxell@linaro.org>,
"open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK"
<linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Kselftest update for Linux 5.4-rc1
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2019 13:52:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190922115247.GA2679387@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190922112555.GB122003@gmail.com>
On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 01:25:55PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 9:35 AM Brendan Higgins
> > <brendanhiggins@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry about that. I am surprised that none of the other reviewers
> > > brought this up.
> >
> > I think I'm "special".
> >
> > There was some other similar change a few years ago, which I
> > absolutely hated because of how it broke autocomplete for me. Very few
> > other people seemed to react to it.
>
> FWIW, I am obsessively sensitive to autocomplete and overall source code
> file hieararchy and nomenclature details as well, so it's not just you.
>
> Beyond the muscle memory aspect, nonsensical naming and inanely flat file
> hierarchies annoy kernel developers and makes it harder for newbies to
> understand the kernel source as well.
>
> The less clutter, the more organization, the better - and there's very
> few valid technical reasons to add any new files or directories to the
> top level directory - we should probably *remove* quite a few.
>
> For example 'firmware/' was recently moved to drivers/firmware/, and in a
> similar fashion about a third of the remaining 22 directories should
> probably be moved too:
>
> drwxr-xr-x arch
> drwxr-xr-x block
> drwxr-xr-x certs # move to build/certs/ dir
> drwxr-xr-x crypto # move to kernel/crypto/ or security/crypto/
> drwxr-xr-x Documentation
> drwxr-xr-x drivers
> drwxr-xr-x fs
> drwxr-xr-x include
> drwxr-xr-x init
> drwxr-xr-x ipc # move to kernel/ipc/
> drwxr-xr-x kernel
> drwxr-xr-x lib
> drwxr-xr-x LICENSES
> drwxr-xr-x mm
> drwxr-xr-x net
> drwxr-xr-x samples # move to Documentation/samples/
> drwxr-xr-x scripts # move to build/scripts/
> drwxr-xr-x security
> drwxr-xr-x sound # move to drivers/sound/
> drwxr-xr-x tools
> drwxr-xr-x usr # move to build/usr/
> drwxr-xr-x virt # move to the already existing drivers/virt/
>
> -rw-r--r-- COPYING
> -rw-r--r-- CREDITS
> -rw-r--r-- Kbuild
> -rw-r--r-- Kconfig
> -rw-r--r-- MAINTAINERS
> -rw-r--r-- Makefile
> -rw-r--r-- README
>
> There's a few borderline ones:
>
> - 'block' could in principle move to drivers/block/core/ but it's fine
> at the top level too I think.
>
> - 'init' could in principle be moved to kernel/init/ - but it's not
> wrong at the top level either.
>
> The remaining top level hierarchy would look pretty sweet and short:
>
> drwxr-xr-x arch
> drwxr-xr-x block
> drwxr-xr-x build # new
> drwxr-xr-x Documentation
> drwxr-xr-x drivers
> drwxr-xr-x fs
> drwxr-xr-x include
> drwxr-xr-x init
> drwxr-xr-x kernel
> drwxr-xr-x lib
> drwxr-xr-x LICENSES
> drwxr-xr-x mm
> drwxr-xr-x net
> drwxr-xr-x security
> drwxr-xr-x tools
>
> -rw-r--r-- COPYING
> -rw-r--r-- CREDITS
> -rw-r--r-- Kbuild
> -rw-r--r-- Kconfig
> -rw-r--r-- MAINTAINERS
> -rw-r--r-- Makefile
> -rw-r--r-- README
>
> I'm volunteering to do this (in a scripted, repeatable, reviewable,
> tweakable and "easy to execute in a quiet moment" fashion), although
> I also expect you to balk at the churn. :-)
I for one would love the above changes. And I'm the one that has to
deal with all of the backporting issues that arise with stable backports :)
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-09-22 11:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-09-17 19:26 [GIT PULL] Kselftest update for Linux 5.4-rc1 Shuah Khan
2019-09-20 16:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-20 16:26 ` Randy Dunlap
[not found] ` <CAKRRn-edxk9Du70A27V=d3Na73fh=fVvGEVsQRGROrQm05YRrA@mail.gmail.com>
2019-09-20 16:35 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-09-20 16:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-20 18:03 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-09-20 18:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-09-20 18:16 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-09-20 18:06 ` Shuah Khan
2019-09-22 11:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-22 11:52 ` Greg KH [this message]
2019-09-23 14:44 ` Shuah Khan
2019-09-23 19:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-23 19:52 ` Randy Dunlap
2019-09-23 20:29 ` Shuah Khan
2019-09-23 20:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-23 21:11 ` Shuah Khan
2019-09-23 20:08 ` [RFC, Tree] De-clutter the top level directory, move ipc/ => kernel/ipc/, samples/ => Documentation/samples/ and sound/ => drivers/sound/ Ingo Molnar
2019-09-24 11:31 ` [Tree, v2] " Ingo Molnar
2019-09-24 15:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-24 18:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-25 23:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-23 23:54 ` [GIT PULL] Kselftest update for Linux 5.4-rc1 Tim.Bird
2019-09-24 8:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2019-09-26 12:52 ` David Sterba
2019-09-27 13:52 ` Pavel Machek
2019-10-03 9:08 ` Masahiro Yamada
2019-09-22 12:29 Alexey Dobriyan
2019-09-23 22:40 Shuah Khan
2019-09-26 20:10 ` pr-tracker-bot
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