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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
	contact@xogium.me
Subject: Re: [PATCH] panic: Ensure preemption is disabled during panic()
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 11:49:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191004104947.vbxe5kv3nbjxqs55@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191004092917.GY25745@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 10:29:17AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 11:11:42AM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > On Thu 2019-10-03 21:56:34, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > I've deliberately left the irq part alone, since I think
> > > having magic sysrq work via the keyboard interrupt is desirable from the
> > > panic loop.
> > 
> > I agree that we should keep sysrq working.
> > 
> > One pity thing is that led_panic_blink() in
> > leds/drivers/trigger/ledtrig-panic.c uses workqueues:
> > 
> >   + led_panic_blink()
> >     + led_trigger_event()
> >       + led_set_brightness()
> > 	+ schedule_work()
> > 
> > It means that it depends on the scheduler. I guess that it
> > does not work in many panic situations. But this patch
> > will always block it.
> > 
> > I agree that it is strange that userspace still works at
> > this stage. But does it cause any real problems?
> 
> Yes, there are watchdog drivers that continue to pat their watchdog
> after the kernel has panic'd.  It makes watchdogs useless (which is
> exactly how this problem was discovered.)

Indeed, and I think the LED blinking is already unreliable if the
brightness operation needs to sleep. For example, if the kernel isn't
preemptible or the work gets queued up on a different CPU which is
sitting in panic_smp_self_stop().

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-04 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-02 12:35 [PATCH] panic: Ensure preemption is disabled during panic() Will Deacon
2019-10-02 20:58 ` Kees Cook
2019-10-03 20:56   ` Will Deacon
2019-10-04  9:11     ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-04  9:29       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-04 10:49         ` Will Deacon [this message]
2019-10-04 11:15           ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-04 13:51             ` Feng Tang
2019-10-07  8:02           ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-02 21:45 ` Andrew Morton
2019-10-03 20:53   ` Will Deacon

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