From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0FCC47404 for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 07:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A66F2064A for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2019 07:33:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727673AbfJKHdv (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Oct 2019 03:33:51 -0400 Received: from out30-131.freemail.mail.aliyun.com ([115.124.30.131]:47160 "EHLO out30-131.freemail.mail.aliyun.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726679AbfJKHdu (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Oct 2019 03:33:50 -0400 X-Alimail-AntiSpam: AC=PASS;BC=-1|-1;BR=01201311R461e4;CH=green;DM=||false|;FP=0|-1|-1|-1|0|-1|-1|-1;HT=e01e04420;MF=aaron.lu@linux.alibaba.com;NM=1;PH=DS;RN=21;SR=0;TI=SMTPD_---0TeiSnbC_1570779218; Received: from aaronlu(mailfrom:aaron.lu@linux.alibaba.com fp:SMTPD_---0TeiSnbC_1570779218) by smtp.aliyun-inc.com(127.0.0.1); Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:33:45 +0800 Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:33:38 +0800 From: Aaron Lu To: Vineeth Remanan Pillai Cc: Tim Chen , Julien Desfossez , Dario Faggioli , "Li, Aubrey" , Aubrey Li , Nishanth Aravamudan , Peter Zijlstra , Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner , Paul Turner , Linus Torvalds , Linux List Kernel Mailing , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= Weisbecker , Kees Cook , Greg Kerr , Phil Auld , Valentin Schneider , Mel Gorman , Pawan Gupta , Paolo Bonzini Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/16] Core scheduling v3 Message-ID: <20191011073338.GA125778@aaronlu> References: <69cd9bca-da28-1d35-3913-1efefe0c1c22@linux.intel.com> <20190911140204.GA52872@aaronlu> <7b001860-05b4-4308-df0e-8b60037b8000@linux.intel.com> <20190912123532.GB16200@aaronlu> <20191010135436.GA67897@aaronlu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 10:29:47AM -0400, Vineeth Remanan Pillai wrote: > > I didn't see why we need do this. > > > > We only need to have the root level sched entities' vruntime become core > > wide since we will compare vruntime for them across hyperthreads. For > > sched entities on sub cfs_rqs, we never(at least, not now) compare their > > vruntime outside their cfs_rqs. > > > The reason we need to do this is because, new tasks that gets created will > have a vruntime based on the new min_vruntime and old tasks will have it > based on the old min_vruntime I think this is expected behaviour. > and it can cause starvation based on how > you set the min_vruntime. Care to elaborate the starvation problem? > With this new patch, we normalize the whole > tree so that new tasks and old tasks compare with the same min_vruntime. Again, what's the point of normalizing sched entities' vruntime in sub-cfs_rqs? Their vruntime comparisons only happen inside their own cfs_rq, we don't do cross CPU vruntime comparison for them.