From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>
Cc: will@kernel.org, maz@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] arm64: add support for the AMU extension v1
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 15:31:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191011143112.GB3607@arrakis.emea.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e82e891-1d47-7a4f-abc9-e6bf2cce7f91@arm.com>
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 11:31:40AM +0100, Ionela Voinescu wrote:
> On 10/10/2019 18:20, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 02:42:25PM +0100, Ionela Voinescu wrote:
> >> +#ifdef CONFIG_ARM64_AMU_EXTN
> >> +
> >> +/*
> >> + * This per cpu variable only signals that the CPU implementation supports the
> >> + * AMU but does not provide information regarding all the events that it
> >> + * supports.
> >> + * When this amu_feat per CPU variable is true, the user of this feature can
> >> + * only rely on the presence of the 4 fixed counters. But this does not
> >> + * guarantee that the counters are enabled or access to these counters is
> >> + * provided by code executed at higher exception levels.
> >> + */
> >> +DEFINE_PER_CPU(bool, amu_feat) = false;
> >> +
> >> +static void cpu_amu_enable(struct arm64_cpu_capabilities const *cap)
> >> +{
> >> + if (has_cpuid_feature(cap, SCOPE_LOCAL_CPU)) {
> >> + pr_info("detected CPU%d: Activity Monitors extension\n",
> >> + smp_processor_id());
> >> + this_cpu_write(amu_feat, true);
> >> + }
> >> +}
> >
> > Sorry if I missed anything as I just skimmed through this series. I
> > can't see the amu_feat used anywhere in these patches, so on its own it
> > doesn't make much sense.
>
> No worries, you are correct, at the moment the per-cpu amu_feat is not
> yet used anywhere. But the intention is to use it to discover the
> feature at CPU level as some CPUs might implement AMU and some might
> not.
>
> I'll soon submit some patches using the counters for the scheduler's
> frequency invariance - to discover the frequency the CPUs are actually
> running at in case there is power or thermal mitigation happening
> outside of the OS.
Thanks for the explanation. I guess I'll wait for the other patches to
see how all fits together. In general I'm not keen on per-CPU variables
exposed to the rest of the kernel. For example, is it always read in a
non-preemptible context? I'd rather have an accessor function with the
corresponding WARN_ON_ONCE(preemptible()). This may come with the rest
of the patches.
> More practically, it's possible that we'll see big.LITTLE platforms
> where the big CPUs only will implement activity monitors and for those
> CPUs it will be useful to get more accurate information on the current
> frequency, for example, as power and thermal mitigation is more
> probable to happen in the power domain of the big CPUs.
As long as that's a realistic possibility (not just a theoretical one)
and the in-kernel code can handle such asymmetry, it's fine by me. This
could be another reason to never expose the AMU counters to user-space
or guests. You can control preemption in the kernel but can't run
user-space in a non-preemptible context.
--
Catalin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-11 14:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-09-17 13:42 [PATCH 0/4] arm64: ARMv8.4 Activity Monitors support Ionela Voinescu
2019-09-17 13:42 ` [PATCH 1/4] arm64: add support for the AMU extension v1 Ionela Voinescu
2019-10-10 17:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-10-11 10:31 ` Ionela Voinescu
2019-10-11 14:31 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2019-09-17 13:42 ` [PATCH 2/4] arm64: trap to EL1 accesses to AMU counters from EL0 Ionela Voinescu
2019-09-17 13:42 ` [PATCH 3/4] arm64/kvm: disable access to AMU registers from kvm guests Ionela Voinescu
2019-09-17 13:42 ` [PATCH 4/4] Documentation: arm64: document support for the AMU extension Ionela Voinescu
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