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From: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
	Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Alexandru Gagniuc <mr.nuke.me@gmail.com>,
	Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
	Paul Menzel <pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de>,
	Nicholas Johnson <nicholas.johnson-opensource@outlook.com.au>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] PCI: Add missing link delays required by the PCIe spec
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 17:28:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191105152832.GC2552@lahna.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191105150013.GA202873@google.com>

On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 09:00:13AM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 11:54:28AM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 06:00:00PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> 
> > > > If you think it is fine to do the delay before we have restored
> > > > everything I can move it inside pci_power_up() or call it after
> > > > pci_pm_default_resume_early() as above. I think at least we should make
> > > > sure all the saved registers are restored before so that the link
> > > > activation check actually works.
> > > 
> > > What needs to be restored to make pcie_wait_for_link_delay() work?
> > 
> > I'm not entirely sure. I think that pci_restore_state() at least should
> > be called so that the PCIe capability gets restored. Maybe not even
> > that because Data Link Layer Layer Active always reflects the DL_Active
> > or not and it does not need to be enabled separately.
> > 
> > > And what event does the restore need to be ordered with?
> > 
> > Not sure I follow you here.
> 
> You're suggesting that we should restore saved registers first so
> pcie_wait_for_link_delay() works.  If the link activation depends on
> something being restored and we don't enforce an ordering, the
> activation might succeed or fail depending on whether it happens
> before or after the restore.  So if there is a dependency, we should
> make it explicit to avoid a race like that.

OK thanks. By explicit you mean document it in the code, right?

> But I'm not saying we *shouldn't* do the restore before the wait; only
> that any dependency should be explicit.  Even if there is no actual
> dependency it probably makes sense to do the restore first so it can
> overlap with the hardware link training, which may reduce the time
> pcie_wait_for_link_delay() has to wait when we do call it, e.g.,
> 
>   |-----------------|          link activation
>      |-----|                   restore state
>            |--------|          pcie_wait_for_link_delay()
> 
> whereas if we do the restore after waiting for the link to come up, it
> probably takes longer:
> 
>   |-----------------|          link activation
>      |--------------|          pcie_wait_for_link_delay()
>                     |-----|    restore state
> 
> I actually suspect there *is* a dependency -- we should respect the
> Target Link Speed and and width so the link resumes in the same
> configuration it was before suspend.  And I suspect that may require
> an explicit retrain after restoring PCI_EXP_LNKCTL2.

According the PCIe spec the PCI_EXP_LNKCTL2 Target Link Speed is marked
as RWS (S for sticky) so I suspect its value is retained after reset in
the same way as PME bits. Assuming I understood it correctly.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-05 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-04 12:39 [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI: Add missing link delays Mika Westerberg
2019-10-04 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] PCI: Introduce pcie_wait_for_link_delay() Mika Westerberg
2020-08-08 20:22   ` Marc MERLIN
2020-08-08 20:23     ` Marc MERLIN
2020-08-09 16:31     ` Marc MERLIN
2020-09-06 18:18     ` pcieport 0000:00:01.0: PME: Spurious native interrupt (nvidia with nouveau and thunderbolt on thinkpad P73) Marc MERLIN
2020-09-06 18:26       ` Matthias Andree
2020-09-07 19:14       ` [Nouveau] " Karol Herbst
2020-09-07 20:58         ` Marc MERLIN
2020-09-07 23:51           ` Karol Herbst
2020-09-08  0:29             ` Marc MERLIN
2020-09-13 20:15               ` Marc MERLIN
     [not found]               ` <20200529180315.GA18804@merlins.org>
2020-12-26 11:12                 ` 5.9.11 still hanging 2mn at each boot and looping on nvidia-gpu 0000:01:00.3: PME# enabled (Quadro RTX 4000 Mobile) Marc MERLIN
2020-12-27 18:28                   ` [Nouveau] " Ilia Mirkin
2021-01-27 21:33                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-28 20:59                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-29  0:56                     ` Marc MERLIN
2021-01-29 21:20                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-01-30  2:04                         ` Marc MERLIN
2020-12-29 15:51                 ` Marc MERLIN
2020-12-29 16:33                   ` Ilia Mirkin
2019-10-04 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] PCI: Add missing link delays required by the PCIe spec Mika Westerberg
2019-10-26 14:19   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-28 11:28     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-28 13:42       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-28 18:06         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-28 20:16           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-29 11:15             ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-29 20:27               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-30 11:15                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-31 22:31                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-01 11:19                     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05  0:00                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-05  9:54                         ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05 12:58                           ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05 20:01                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-06 13:31                               ` Mika Westerberg
2019-11-05 15:00                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-05 15:28                             ` Mika Westerberg [this message]
2019-11-05 16:10                               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-11-06 13:29                                 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-29 20:54   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-10-30 11:33     ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-04 12:57 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] PCI: Add missing link delays Matthias Andree
2019-10-04 13:06   ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-05  7:34     ` Matthias Andree
2019-10-07  9:32       ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-07 15:15         ` Matthias Andree
2019-10-08  9:05           ` Mika Westerberg

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