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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jacek Anaszewski <jacek.anaszewski@gmail.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@tencent.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Yauheni Kaliuta <yauheni.kaliuta@redhat.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/9] sched/vtime: Handle nice updates under vtime
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:18:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191115101831.GW5671@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191115101648.GC4131@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:16:48AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 04:08:01AM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > The cputime niceness is determined while checking the target's nice value
> > at cputime accounting time. Under vtime this happens on context switches,
> > user exit and guest exit. But nice value updates while the target is
> > running are not taken into account.
> > 
> > So if a task runs tickless for 10 seconds in userspace but it has been
> > reniced after 5 seconds from -1 (not nice) to 1 (nice), on user exit
> > vtime will account the whole 10 seconds as CPUTIME_NICE because it only
> > sees the latest nice value at accounting time which is 1 here. Yet it's
> > wrong, 5 seconds should be accounted as CPUTIME_USER and 5 seconds as
> > CPUTIME_NICE.
> > 
> > In order to solve this, we now cover nice updates withing three cases:
> > 
> > * If the nice updater is the current task, although we are in kernel
> >   mode there can be pending user or guest time in the cache to flush
> >   under the prior nice state. Account these if any. Also toggle the
> >   vtime nice flag for further user/guest cputime accounting.
> > 
> > * If the target runs on a different CPU, we interrupt it with an IPI to
> >   update the vtime state in place. If the task is running in user or
> >   guest, the pending cputime is accounted under the prior nice state.
> >   Then the vtime nice flag is toggled for further user/guest cputime
> >   accounting.
> 
> But but but, I thought the idea was to _never_ send interrupts to
> NOHZ_FULL cpus ?!?

That is, isn't the cure worse than the problem? I mean, who bloody cares
about silly accounting crud more than not getting interrupts on their
NOHZ_FULL cpus.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-15 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-06  3:07 [PATCH 0/9] sched/nohz: Make the rest of kcpustat vtime aware Frederic Weisbecker
2019-11-06  3:07 ` [PATCH 1/9] sched/cputime: Allow to pass cputime index on user/guest accounting Frederic Weisbecker
2019-11-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 2/9] sched/cputime: Standardize the kcpustat index based accounting functions Frederic Weisbecker
2019-11-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 3/9] sched/vtime: Handle nice updates under vtime Frederic Weisbecker
2019-11-15 10:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 10:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15 10:18     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-11-15 15:27       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2019-11-18 13:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 4/9] sched/cputime: Support other fields on kcpustat_field() Frederic Weisbecker
2019-11-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 5/9] sched/vtime: Bring all-in-one kcpustat accessor for vtime fields Frederic Weisbecker
2019-11-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 6/9] procfs: Use all-in-one vtime aware kcpustat accessor Frederic Weisbecker
2019-11-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 7/9] cpufreq: Use vtime aware kcpustat accessors for user time Frederic Weisbecker
2019-11-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 8/9] leds: Use all-in-one vtime aware kcpustat accessor Frederic Weisbecker
2019-11-06  3:08 ` [PATCH 9/9] rackmeter: Use " Frederic Weisbecker
2019-11-14 15:25 ` [PATCH 0/9] sched/nohz: Make the rest of kcpustat vtime aware Frederic Weisbecker

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