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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <arnaldo.melo@gmail.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Network Development" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Namhyung Kim" <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	"Alexander Shishkin" <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"Michael Petlan" <mpetlan@redhat.com>,
	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <brouer@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <kafai@fb.com>,
	"Song Liu" <songliubraving@fb.com>, "Yonghong Song" <yhs@fb.com>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andriin@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] perf/bpftool: Allow to link libbpf dynamically
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 15:44:00 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191127184400.GA4063@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQLp2VTi9JhtfkLOR9Y1ipNFObOGH9DQe5zbKxz77juhqA@mail.gmail.com>

Em Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 08:37:59AM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov escreveu:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 1:48 AM Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org> wrote:
> > adding support to link bpftool with libbpf dynamically,
> > and config change for perf.

> > It's now possible to use:
> >   $ make -C tools/bpf/bpftool/ LIBBPF_DYNAMIC=1

> > which will detect libbpf devel package with needed version,
> > and if found, link it with bpftool.

> > It's possible to use arbitrary installed libbpf:
> >   $ make -C tools/bpf/bpftool/ LIBBPF_DYNAMIC=1 LIBBPF_DIR=/tmp/libbpf/

> > I based this change on top of Arnaldo's perf/core, because
> > it contains libbpf feature detection code as dependency.
> > It's now also synced with latest bpf-next, so Toke's change
> > applies correctly.
 
> I don't like it.
> Especially Toke's patch to expose netlink as public and stable libbpf api.
> bpftools needs to stay tightly coupled with libbpf (and statically
> linked for that reason).
> Otherwise libbpf will grow a ton of public api that would have to be stable
> and will quickly become a burden.

I can relate to that, tools/lib/perf/ is only now getting put in place
because of these fears, hopefully the evsel/evlist/cpumap/etc
abstractions there have been in use for a long time and will be not be a
burden... :-)

- Arnaldo

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-27 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-27  9:48 [PATCH 0/3] perf/bpftool: Allow to link libbpf dynamically Jiri Olsa
2019-11-27  9:48 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf tools: Allow to specify libbpf install directory Jiri Olsa
2019-11-27  9:48 ` [PATCH 2/3] libbpf: Export netlink functions used by bpftool Jiri Olsa
2019-11-27  9:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] bpftool: Allow to link libbpf dynamically Jiri Olsa
2019-11-27 13:38   ` Quentin Monnet
2019-11-27 14:15     ` Jiri Olsa
2019-11-27 14:24       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2019-11-27 14:31         ` Quentin Monnet
2019-11-27 15:48           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2019-11-27 15:52             ` Quentin Monnet
2019-11-27 15:59               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2019-11-27 14:29       ` Quentin Monnet
2019-11-27 16:41   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-27 16:37 ` [PATCH 0/3] perf/bpftool: " Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-27 18:44   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2019-11-27 20:24   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2019-11-27 21:22     ` Daniel Borkmann
2019-11-27 22:47       ` Jiri Olsa
2019-11-28  9:06   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-28 14:53 ` [PATCH bpf v2] bpftool: " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-28 15:32   ` Quentin Monnet
2019-11-28 15:52     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-28 16:07   ` [PATCH bpf v3] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-28 17:30     ` Quentin Monnet
2019-11-29  8:12     ` Jiri Olsa
2019-11-29  8:24       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-29 10:24     ` Daniel Borkmann
2019-11-29 14:00       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-11-29 23:56         ` Daniel Borkmann
2019-12-02  8:59           ` Jiri Olsa
2019-12-02 17:09 ` [PATCH 0/3] perf/bpftool: " Andrii Nakryiko
2019-12-02 18:08   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-12-02 18:42     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2019-12-02 18:54       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2019-12-02 19:21       ` Jiri Olsa
2019-12-02 19:54         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2019-12-02 20:02           ` Jiri Olsa

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