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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why is CONFIG_VT forced on?
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 03:53:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191231035319.GE4203@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ffa8ec1d-71d7-a153-eed9-8e2daee40949@landley.net>

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 09:27:50PM -0600, Rob Landley wrote:

> > Your complaint is basically that the same thing is forcing all of those on
> > in default configs.
> 
> No, my complaint was that kconfig basically has the concept of symbols that turn
> _off_ something that is otherwise on by default ("Disable X" instead of "Enable
> X"), but it was implemented it in an awkward way then allowed to scale to silly
> levels, and now the fact it exists is being used as evidence that it was a good
> idea.

Where and by whom?

> I had to work out a way to work around this design breakage, which I did and had
> moved on before this email, but I thought pointing out the awkwardness might
> help a design discussion.

What design discussion?  Where?

> My mistake.

Generally a passive-aggressive flame (complete with comparisons to INTERCAL)
and not a shred of reference to any design issues in it tends to
be rather ineffecient way to start such discussion...

> The thread _started_ because menuconfig help has a blind spot (which seemed like
> a bug to me, it _used_ to say why), and then I found the syntax you changed a
> year or two back non-obvious when I tried to RTFM but that part got answered.

_I_ have changed???  What the hell?  I have never touched kconfig syntax in any
way; what are you talking about?  Care to post commit IDs in question?

  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-31  3:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-31  0:30 Why is CONFIG_VT forced on? Rob Landley
2019-12-31  0:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2019-12-31  0:53   ` Rob Landley
2019-12-31  0:59     ` Randy Dunlap
2019-12-31  1:45       ` Rob Landley
2019-12-31  2:00         ` Randy Dunlap
2019-12-31  2:04         ` Rob Landley
2019-12-31  2:03           ` Randy Dunlap
2019-12-31  2:33             ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-12-31  2:40           ` Al Viro
2019-12-31  2:52             ` Al Viro
2019-12-31  3:27               ` Rob Landley
2019-12-31  3:53                 ` Al Viro [this message]
2019-12-31  4:18                   ` Al Viro
2019-12-31  5:58                     ` Al Viro
2020-01-01 20:41                       ` [PATCH] menuconfig: restore prompt dependencies in help text Arvind Sankar
2020-01-01 21:04                         ` Al Viro
2020-01-01 22:26                           ` Arvind Sankar
2020-01-02 16:14                             ` Randy Dunlap
2020-01-02 23:14                               ` [PATCH] kconfig: " Arvind Sankar
2020-01-03  2:10                                 ` Masahiro Yamada
2020-01-03  4:20                                   ` Arvind Sankar
2019-12-31  1:55 ` Why is CONFIG_VT forced on? Theodore Y. Ts'o
2020-01-04 20:27   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2019-12-31  2:28 ` Al Viro

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