From: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@redhat.com>
To: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
Sandeep Patil <sspatil@google.com>,
Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@google.com>,
Brian Geffon <bgeffon@google.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
John Dias <joaodias@google.com>,
christian.brauner@ubuntu.com, sjpark@amazon.de,
Minchan Kim <minchan@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] mm/madvise: allow KSM hints for remote API
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 13:34:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200117123400.o3ne6kazkovq4okd@butterfly.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37338e14-5a55-1926-b6c1-5f98b6a6fdb5@virtuozzo.com>
Hi.
On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 01:13:14PM +0300, Kirill Tkhai wrote:
> On 17.01.2020 02:59, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > From: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@redhat.com>
> >
> > It all began with the fact that KSM works only on memory that is marked
> > by madvise(). And the only way to get around that is to either:
> >
> > * use LD_PRELOAD; or
> > * patch the kernel with something like UKSM or PKSM.
> >
> > (i skip ptrace can of worms here intentionally)
> >
> > To overcome this restriction, lets employ a new remote madvise API. This
> > can be used by some small userspace helper daemon that will do auto-KSM
> > job for us.
> >
> > I think of two major consumers of remote KSM hints:
> >
> > * hosts, that run containers, especially similar ones and especially in
> > a trusted environment, sharing the same runtime like Node.js;
> >
> > * heavy applications, that can be run in multiple instances, not
> > limited to opensource ones like Firefox, but also those that cannot be
> > modified since they are binary-only and, maybe, statically linked.
> >
> > Speaking of statistics, more numbers can be found in the very first
> > submission, that is related to this one [1]. For my current setup with
> > two Firefox instances I get 100 to 200 MiB saved for the second instance
> > depending on the amount of tabs.
> >
> > 1 FF instance with 15 tabs:
> >
> > $ echo "$(cat /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/pages_sharing) * 4 / 1024" | bc
> > 410
> >
> > 2 FF instances, second one has 12 tabs (all the tabs are different):
> >
> > $ echo "$(cat /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/pages_sharing) * 4 / 1024" | bc
> > 592
> >
> > At the very moment I do not have specific numbers for containerised
> > workload, but those should be comparable in case the containers share
> > similar/same runtime.
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/1012142/
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@redhat.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@google.com>
> > ---
> > mm/madvise.c | 2 ++
> > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/madvise.c b/mm/madvise.c
> > index 84cffd0900f1..89557998d287 100644
> > --- a/mm/madvise.c
> > +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> > @@ -1000,6 +1000,8 @@ process_madvise_behavior_valid(int behavior)
> > switch (behavior) {
> > case MADV_COLD:
> > case MADV_PAGEOUT:
> > + case MADV_MERGEABLE:
> > + case MADV_UNMERGEABLE:
> > return true;
> > default:
> > return false;
>
> Remote madvise on KSM parameters should be OK.
>
> One thing is madvise_behavior_valid() places MADV_MERGEABLE/UNMERGEABLE
> in #ifdef brackes, so -EINVAL is returned by madvise() syscall if KSM
> is not enabled. Here we should follow the same way for symmetry.
>
Thanks for the suggestion.
Minchan, shall you adopt it directly, or I should send a separate patch?
--
Best regards,
Oleksandr Natalenko (post-factum)
Senior Software Maintenance Engineer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-01-17 12:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-01-16 23:59 [PATCH v2 0/5] introduce memory hinting API for external process Minchan Kim
2020-01-16 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] mm: factor out madvise's core functionality Minchan Kim
2020-01-17 10:02 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-17 18:14 ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-16 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] mm: introduce external memory hinting API Minchan Kim
2020-01-17 11:52 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-17 15:58 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-17 17:32 ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-17 21:26 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-18 9:40 ` SeongJae Park
2020-01-19 16:14 ` sspatil
2020-01-20 7:58 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-20 10:39 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-21 18:32 ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-22 8:28 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-22 9:36 ` SeongJae Park
2020-01-22 10:02 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-22 13:28 ` SeongJae Park
2020-01-23 1:41 ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-23 9:13 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-21 18:11 ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-22 10:44 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-01-23 1:43 ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-23 7:29 ` Oleksandr Natalenko
2020-01-17 17:25 ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-20 8:03 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-20 10:24 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-20 11:27 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-20 12:39 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-20 13:24 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-20 14:21 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2020-01-20 15:44 ` Michal Hocko
2020-01-21 18:43 ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-16 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] mm/madvise: employ mmget_still_valid for write lock Minchan Kim
2020-01-16 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] mm/madvise: allow KSM hints for remote API Minchan Kim
2020-01-17 10:13 ` Kirill Tkhai
2020-01-17 12:34 ` Oleksandr Natalenko [this message]
2020-01-21 17:45 ` Minchan Kim
2020-01-16 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] mm: support both pid and pidfd for process_madvise Minchan Kim
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