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From: Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kernel-team@fb.com>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.ibm.com>,
	Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 21/28] mm: memcg/slab: use a single set of kmem_caches for all memory cgroups
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 12:58:34 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200203205834.GA6781@xps.dhcp.thefacebook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200203195048.GA4396@cmpxchg.org>

On Mon, Feb 03, 2020 at 02:50:48PM -0500, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 09:34:46AM -0800, Roman Gushchin wrote:
> > This is fairly big but mostly red patch, which makes all non-root
> > slab allocations use a single set of kmem_caches instead of
> > creating a separate set for each memory cgroup.
> > 
> > Because the number of non-root kmem_caches is now capped by the number
> > of root kmem_caches, there is no need to shrink or destroy them
> > prematurely. They can be perfectly destroyed together with their
> > root counterparts. This allows to dramatically simplify the
> > management of non-root kmem_caches and delete a ton of code.
> 
> This is definitely going in the right direction. But it doesn't quite
> explain why we still need two sets of kmem_caches?
> 
> In the old scheme, we had completely separate per-cgroup caches with
> separate slab pages. If a cgrouped process wanted to allocate a slab
> object, we'd go to the root cache and used the cgroup id to look up
> the right cgroup cache. On slab free we'd use page->slab_cache.
> 
> Now we have slab pages that have a page->objcg array. Why can't all
> allocations go through a single set of kmem caches? If an allocation
> is coming from a cgroup and the slab page the allocator wants to use
> doesn't have an objcg array yet, we can allocate it on the fly, no?

Well, arguably it can be done, but there are few drawbacks:

1) On the release path you'll need to make some extra work even for
   root allocations: calculate the offset only to find the NULL objcg pointer.

2) There will be a memory overhead for root allocations
   (which might or might not be compensated by the increase
   of the slab utilization).

3) I'm working on percpu memory accounting that resembles the same scheme,
   except that obj_cgroups vector is created for the whole percpu block.
   There will be root- and memcg-blocks, and it will be expensive to merge them.
   I kinda like using the same scheme here and there.

Upsides?

1) slab utilization might increase a little bit (but I doubt it will have
   a huge effect, because both merging sets should be relatively big and well
   utilized)
2) eliminate memcg kmem_cache dynamic creation/destruction. it's nice,
   but there isn't so much code left anyway.


So IMO it's an interesting direction to explore, but not something
that necessarily has to be done in the context of this patchset.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-03 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200127173453.2089565-1-guro@fb.com>
2020-01-27 17:34 ` [PATCH v2 14/28] mm: memcontrol: decouple reference counting from page accounting Roman Gushchin
2020-01-30  2:06 ` [PATCH v2 00/28] The new cgroup slab memory controller Bharata B Rao
2020-01-30  2:41   ` Roman Gushchin
2020-08-12 23:16     ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-08-12 23:18       ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-08-13  0:04       ` Roman Gushchin
2020-08-13  0:31         ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-08-28 16:47           ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-09-01  5:28             ` Bharata B Rao
2020-09-01 12:52               ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-09-02  6:23                 ` Bharata B Rao
2020-09-02 12:34                   ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-09-02  9:53             ` Vlastimil Babka
2020-09-02 10:39               ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-02 12:42                 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-09-02 13:50                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-02 14:20                     ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-09-03 18:09                       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-02 11:26               ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-02 12:51                 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-09-02 13:51                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-02 11:32               ` Michal Hocko
2020-09-02 12:53                 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-09-02 13:52                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found] ` <20200127173453.2089565-28-guro@fb.com>
2020-01-30  2:17   ` [PATCH v2 27/28] tools/cgroup: make slabinfo.py compatible with new slab controller Bharata B Rao
2020-01-30  2:44     ` Roman Gushchin
2020-01-31 22:24     ` Roman Gushchin
2020-02-12  5:21       ` Bharata B Rao
2020-02-12 20:42         ` Roman Gushchin
     [not found] ` <20200127173453.2089565-8-guro@fb.com>
2020-02-03 16:05   ` [PATCH v2 07/28] mm: memcg/slab: introduce mem_cgroup_from_obj() Johannes Weiner
     [not found] ` <20200127173453.2089565-9-guro@fb.com>
2020-02-03 16:12   ` [PATCH v2 08/28] mm: fork: fix kernel_stack memcg stats for various stack implementations Johannes Weiner
     [not found] ` <20200127173453.2089565-10-guro@fb.com>
2020-02-03 16:13   ` [PATCH v2 09/28] mm: memcg/slab: rename __mod_lruvec_slab_state() into __mod_lruvec_obj_state() Johannes Weiner
     [not found] ` <20200127173453.2089565-11-guro@fb.com>
2020-02-03 17:39   ` [PATCH v2 10/28] mm: memcg: introduce mod_lruvec_memcg_state() Johannes Weiner
     [not found] ` <20200127173453.2089565-12-guro@fb.com>
2020-02-03 17:44   ` [PATCH v2 11/28] mm: slub: implement SLUB version of obj_to_index() Johannes Weiner
     [not found] ` <20200127173453.2089565-13-guro@fb.com>
2020-02-03 17:58   ` [PATCH v2 12/28] mm: vmstat: use s32 for vm_node_stat_diff in struct per_cpu_nodestat Johannes Weiner
2020-02-03 18:25     ` Roman Gushchin
2020-02-03 20:34       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-03 22:28         ` Roman Gushchin
2020-02-03 22:39           ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-04  1:44             ` Roman Gushchin
     [not found] ` <20200127173453.2089565-17-guro@fb.com>
2020-02-03 18:27   ` [PATCH v2 16/28] mm: memcg/slab: allocate obj_cgroups for non-root slab pages Johannes Weiner
2020-02-03 18:34     ` Roman Gushchin
2020-02-03 20:46       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-03 21:19         ` Roman Gushchin
2020-02-03 22:29           ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found] ` <20200127173453.2089565-16-guro@fb.com>
2020-02-03 19:31   ` [PATCH v2 15/28] mm: memcg/slab: obj_cgroup API Johannes Weiner
     [not found] ` <20200127173453.2089565-22-guro@fb.com>
2020-02-03 19:50   ` [PATCH v2 21/28] mm: memcg/slab: use a single set of kmem_caches for all memory cgroups Johannes Weiner
2020-02-03 20:58     ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2020-02-03 22:17       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-03 22:38         ` Roman Gushchin
2020-02-04  1:15         ` Roman Gushchin
2020-02-04  2:47           ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-04  4:35             ` Roman Gushchin
2020-02-04 18:41               ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-05 15:58                 ` Roman Gushchin
     [not found] ` <20200127173453.2089565-18-guro@fb.com>
2020-02-03 19:53   ` [PATCH v2 17/28] mm: memcg/slab: save obj_cgroup for non-root slab objects Johannes Weiner

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