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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Avri Altman <Avri.Altman@wdc.com>
Cc: Avi Shchislowski <Avi.Shchislowski@wdc.com>,
	Alim Akhtar <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] scsi: ufs: ufs device as a temperature sensor
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2020 13:47:33 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200203214733.GA30898@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR04MB69910152F14A7D481029E4ECFC000@MN2PR04MB6991.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, Feb 03, 2020 at 09:29:57PM +0000, Avri Altman wrote:
> > >> Can you add an explanation why this can't be added to the just-
> > introduced
> > >> 'drivetemp' driver in the hwmon subsystem, and why it make sense to
> > have
> > >> proprietary attributes for temperature and temperature limits ?
> 
> 
> Guenter hi,
> Yeah - I see your point. But here is the thing - 
> UFS devices support only a subset of scsi commands.
> It does not support ATA_16 nor SMART attributes.
> Moreover, you can't read UFS attributes using any other scsi/ATA/SATA
> Commands, nor it obey the ATA temperature sensing conventions.
> So unless you want to totally break the newly born drivetemp - 
> Better to leave ufs devices out of it.
> 

drivetemp is written with extensibility in mind. For example, Martin has a
prototype enhancement which supports SCSI drive temperature sensors. 
As long as a device can be identified as ufs device, and as long as there
is a means to pass-through commands, adding a new type would be easy.

> Another option is to put a ufs module under hwmon.
> Do you see why would that be more advantageous to using the thermal core?
> Provided that you are not going to deprecate it (Intel's wifi card is still using it)...
> 

Deprecate what, and what does this discussion have to do with Intel's wifi
card ?

Either case, the hardware monitoring subsystem provides standard attributes,
and it provides a bridge to the thermal subsystem. The question should be
why _not_ to use the hwmon subsystem, and this question should be answered
as part of this patch series.

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-03 21:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-02 10:46 [PATCH 0/5] scsi: ufs: ufs device as a temperature sensor Avi Shchislowski
2020-02-02 10:46 ` [PATCH 1/5] scsi: ufs: Add ufs thermal support Avi Shchislowski
2020-02-02 10:46 ` [PATCH 2/5] scsi: ufs: export ufshcd_enable_ee Avi Shchislowski
2020-02-02 10:46 ` [PATCH 3/5] scsi: ufs: enable thermal exception event Avi Shchislowski
2020-02-02 10:46 ` [PATCH 4/5] scsi: ufs-thermal: implement thermal file ops Avi Shchislowski
2020-02-02 10:46 ` [PATCH 5/5] scsi: ufs: temperature atrributes add to ufs_sysfs Avi Shchislowski
2020-02-02 19:21 ` [PATCH 0/5] scsi: ufs: ufs device as a temperature sensor Guenter Roeck
2020-02-03 11:57   ` Avi Shchislowski
2020-02-03 14:47     ` Guenter Roeck
2020-02-03 21:29       ` Avri Altman
2020-02-03 21:47         ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2020-02-04  6:17           ` Avri Altman
2020-02-06 10:40             ` Avi Shchislowski
2020-02-06 11:39               ` Julian Calaby
2020-02-06 12:08                 ` Avri Altman
2020-02-06 12:41                   ` Julian Calaby
2020-02-06 13:40                     ` Avri Altman
2020-02-06 15:49                       ` Julian Calaby
2020-02-06 19:32                         ` Avri Altman
2020-02-06 20:42                           ` Guenter Roeck
2020-02-06 22:21                             ` Avri Altman
2020-02-07  0:47                           ` Julian Calaby
2020-02-03  8:51 ` [EXT] " Bean Huo (beanhuo)
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2020-02-02 15:47 Avi Shchislowski
2020-02-02  7:41 Avi Shchislowski

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