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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,
	hpa@zytor.com, arjan@linux.intel.com, rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 09/11] kallsyms: hide layout and expose seed
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 04:32:45 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202002060428.08B14F1@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200205223950.1212394-10-kristen@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 02:39:48PM -0800, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
> To support finer grained kaslr (fgkaslr), we need to make a couple changes
> to kallsyms. Firstly, we need to hide our sorted list of symbols, since
> this will give away our new layout. Secondly, we will export the seed used
> for randomizing the layout so that it can be used to make a particular
> layout persist across boots for debug purposes.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>
> ---
>  kernel/kallsyms.c | 30 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>  1 file changed, 29 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/kallsyms.c b/kernel/kallsyms.c
> index 136ce049c4ad..432b13a3a033 100644
> --- a/kernel/kallsyms.c
> +++ b/kernel/kallsyms.c
> @@ -698,6 +698,21 @@ const char *kdb_walk_kallsyms(loff_t *pos)
>  }
>  #endif	/* CONFIG_KGDB_KDB */
>  
> +#ifdef CONFIG_FG_KASLR
> +extern const u64 fgkaslr_seed[] __weak;
> +
> +static int proc_fgkaslr_show(struct seq_file *m, void *v)
> +{
> +	seq_printf(m, "%llx\n", fgkaslr_seed[0]);
> +	seq_printf(m, "%llx\n", fgkaslr_seed[1]);
> +	seq_printf(m, "%llx\n", fgkaslr_seed[2]);
> +	seq_printf(m, "%llx\n", fgkaslr_seed[3]);
> +	return 0;
> +}
> +#else
> +static inline int proc_fgkaslr_show(struct seq_file *m, void *v) { return 0; }
> +#endif
> +

I'd like to put the fgkaslr seed exposure behind a separate DEBUG
config, since it shouldn't be normally exposed. As such, its
infrastructure should be likely extracted from this and the main fgkaslr
patches and added back separately (and maybe it will entirely vanish
once the RNG is switched to ChaCha20).

>  static const struct file_operations kallsyms_operations = {
>  	.open = kallsyms_open,
>  	.read = seq_read,
> @@ -707,7 +722,20 @@ static const struct file_operations kallsyms_operations = {
>  
>  static int __init kallsyms_init(void)
>  {
> -	proc_create("kallsyms", 0444, NULL, &kallsyms_operations);
> +	/*
> +	 * When fine grained kaslr is enabled, we don't want to
> +	 * print out the symbols even with zero pointers because
> +	 * this reveals the randomization order. If fg kaslr is
> +	 * enabled, make kallsyms available only to privileged
> +	 * users.
> +	 */
> +	if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_FG_KASLR))
> +		proc_create("kallsyms", 0444, NULL, &kallsyms_operations);
> +	else {
> +		proc_create_single("fgkaslr_seed", 0400, NULL,
> +					proc_fgkaslr_show);
> +		proc_create("kallsyms", 0400, NULL, &kallsyms_operations);
> +	}
>  	return 0;
>  }
>  device_initcall(kallsyms_init);
> -- 
> 2.24.1

In the past, making kallsyms entirely unreadable seemed to break weird
stuff in userspace. How about having an alternative view that just
contains a alphanumeric sort of the symbol names (and they will continue
to have zeroed addresses for unprivileged users)?

Or perhaps we wait to hear about this causing a problem, and deal with
it then? :)

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-06 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-05 22:39 [RFC PATCH 00/11] Finer grained kernel address space randomization Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-05 22:39 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] modpost: Support >64K sections Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06 12:38   ` Kees Cook
2020-02-05 22:39 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] x86: tools/relocs: Support >64K section headers Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06 12:39   ` Kees Cook
2020-02-05 22:39 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] x86/boot: Allow a "silent" kaslr random byte fetch Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06  1:08   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-02-06 11:48     ` Kees Cook
2020-02-06 16:58     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-05 22:39 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] x86/boot/KASLR: Introduce PRNG for faster shuffling Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06  1:11   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-02-06 15:10   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
     [not found]     ` <CAGiyFdes26XnNeDfaz-vkm+bU7MBYQiK3xty2EigGjOXBGui2w@mail.gmail.com>
2020-02-07  9:05       ` Kees Cook
2020-02-07 16:52         ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-05 22:39 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] x86: Makefile: Add build and config option for CONFIG_FG_KASLR Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06 10:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-06 11:52     ` Kees Cook
2020-02-25 17:55   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-26 19:13     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-03-24 21:24     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-03-25 15:34       ` Kees Cook
2020-02-05 22:39 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] x86: make sure _etext includes function sections Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06 12:26   ` Kees Cook
2020-02-06 13:15     ` Jann Horn
2020-02-06 16:27       ` David Laight
2020-02-06 14:39     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-06 15:29       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-06 16:11         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-02-06 14:57     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-06 15:45       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-06 19:41     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06 20:02       ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-02-07  9:24         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-10  1:43           ` Kees Cook
2020-02-10 10:51             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-10 15:54               ` Arjan van de Ven
2020-02-10 16:36                 ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-21 19:50                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-02-21 23:05                     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-05 22:39 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] x86/tools: Adding relative relocs for randomized functions Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06 12:37   ` Kees Cook
2020-02-05 22:39 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] x86: Add support for finer grained KASLR Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06  1:17   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-02-06 11:56     ` Kees Cook
2020-02-06 17:36       ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06 10:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-06 12:06     ` Kees Cook
2020-02-06 14:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-06 17:25         ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06 17:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-06 17:43             ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-25 17:49   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-26 19:26     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-05 22:39 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] kallsyms: hide layout and expose seed Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06 12:32   ` Kees Cook [this message]
2020-02-06 17:51     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06 19:27       ` Jann Horn
2020-03-02 19:01         ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-03-02 19:08           ` Kees Cook
2020-03-02 19:19             ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-27  2:42       ` Baoquan He
2020-02-27 16:02         ` Kees Cook
2020-02-28  3:36           ` Baoquan He
2020-02-05 22:39 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] module: Reorder functions Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06 12:41   ` Kees Cook
2020-02-11 12:39     ` Jessica Yu
2020-02-05 22:39 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] x86/boot: Move "boot heap" out of .bss Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06  0:11   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-06  0:33     ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2020-02-06 11:13     ` Kees Cook
2020-02-06 14:25       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-02-06 21:32         ` Kees Cook

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