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From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-sgx@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, nhorman@redhat.com, npmccallum@redhat.com,
	haitao.huang@intel.com, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, kai.svahn@intel.com, bp@alien8.de,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, luto@kernel.org, kai.huang@intel.com,
	rientjes@google.com, cedric.xing@intel.com,
	puiterwijk@redhat.com, Serge Ayoun <serge.ayoun@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v25 07/21] x86/sgx: Enumerate and track EPC sections
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2020 07:55:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200206155508.GC13067@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200206153519.GB9694@linux.intel.com>

On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 05:35:19PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 11:57:00AM -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> >   3. Breaks on-demand paging when running in a VM, e.g. if the VMM chooses
> >      to allocate a physical EPC page when it's actually accessed by the
> >      VM.  I don't expect this to be a problem any time soon, as all VMMs
> >      will likely preallocate EPC pages until KVM (or any other hypervisor)
> >      gains EPC oversusbscription support, which may or may not ever happen.
> >      But, I'd prefer to simply not have the problem in the first place.
> 
> So wouldn't it be better to revisit this when the VM changes are added.

No, because the guest kernel (this code) and the host hypervisor (KVM code)
are separate assets.  Folks will pick up this code use it for guest kernels
and start deploying it, e.g. for cloud workloads.  At some point after KVM
support lands upstream (assuming we get there), CSPs et al will (in theory)
move to the upstream version of KVM instead of running out-of-tree patches.
But, the guest kernels will stay the same and continue to exhibit the
undesirable behavior.

KVM is also not the only hypervisor that supports SGX, e.g. HyperV already
supports exposing SGX to guests.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-06 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-04  6:05 [PATCH v25 00/21] Intel SGX foundations Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 01/21] x86/cpufeatures: x86/msr: Add Intel SGX hardware bits Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 02/21] x86/cpufeatures: x86/msr: Intel SGX Launch Control " Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 03/21] x86/mm: x86/sgx: Signal SIGSEGV with PF_SGX Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 04/21] x86/sgx: Add SGX microarchitectural data structures Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 05/21] x86/sgx: Add wrappers for ENCLS leaf functions Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 06/21] x86/cpu/intel: Detect SGX supprt Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 07/21] x86/sgx: Enumerate and track EPC sections Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-05 19:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2020-02-05 23:11     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-06 15:34       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-06 15:35     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-06 15:55       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 08/21] x86/sgx: Add functions to allocate and free EPC pages Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 09/21] mm: Introduce vm_ops->may_mprotect() Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 10/21] x86/sgx: Linux Enclave Driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:18   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-05 15:58   ` Haitao Huang
2020-02-07 17:03   ` Haitao Huang
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 11/21] selftests/x86: Recurse into subdirectories Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 12/21] selftests/x86: Add a selftest for SGX Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 13/21] x86/sgx: Add provisioning Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 14/21] x86/sgx: Add a page reclaimer Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 15/21] x86/sgx: ptrace() support for the SGX driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 16/21] x86/vdso: Add support for exception fixup in vDSO functions Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 17/21] x86/fault: Add helper function to sanitize error code Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 18/21] x86/traps: Attempt to fixup exceptions in vDSO before signaling Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 19/21] x86/vdso: Add __vdso_sgx_enter_enclave() to wrap SGX enclave transitions Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 20/21] selftests/x86: Add vDSO selftest for SGX Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04  6:05 ` [PATCH v25 21/21] docs: x86/sgx: Document SGX micro architecture and kernel internals Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-05 17:54   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-02-05 23:07     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-05 23:10       ` Randy Dunlap
2020-02-06 14:50         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-04 15:11 ` [PATCH v25 00/21] Intel SGX foundations Sean Christopherson
2020-02-05 21:59   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-05 23:09     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-02-05 16:01 ` Haitao Huang
2020-02-05 22:01   ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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