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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [for-next][PATCH 04/26] bootconfig: Add Extra Boot Config support
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 18:40:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200210174053.GD29627@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200211001007.62290c743e049b231bdd7052@kernel.org>

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 12:10:07AM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> Sure, there are some examples under Documentation/trace/boottime-trace.rst.
> Since the tracefs (ftrace's filesystem user interface) is extensible
> by dynamic events and instanses, I need flexibility of option "keys"
> not only values, also I need structured settings because some keys
> will configure same events or trace instance.

 [ ... ]

Yap, gotcha. It makes a lot of sense for you guys because you don't want
to be typing all those long ftrace command lines on every boot. And the
command line in grub can become too long and hard to handle too.

> 1) write a following bootconfig file
> ----
> kernel {
> 	# root device and resume devices
> 	root = /dev/disk/by-id/nvme-eui.0025385481b2fe2a-part2
> 	resume = /dev/disk/by-id/nvme-eui.0025385481b2fe2a-part1
> 	ro			# Mount root device readonly.
> 	debug			# boot with debug log
> 	ignore_loglevel	# this will print all messages
> 	log_buf_len = 16M	# So expand log buffer to 16MB
> 	no_console_suspend	# Debugging suspend process
> 	mem_encrypt = off	# Set AMD SME to off
> }
> 
> init {
> 	net.ifnames = 0	# Use tradisional ifname
> 	systemd.log_target = null	# Ignore systemd log?
> }

Ok.

However, this has a downside. When you request dmesg from a user because
you're debugging an issue - and we do that all the time - if the command
line were in a config file, we would have to see that config file too.

VS now, it is simply in dmesg.

> Boot time tracing is just a example. I think we can expand this for some
> other subsystems too. And this might be also helpful for adding a bit more
> complex syntax to those parameters without parser.

Yes, I think I see it now. And I still don't think you want this enabled
by default on every box. It is expressed perfectly fine here:

config BOOTTIME_TRACING
        bool "Boot-time Tracing support"
        depends on BOOT_CONFIG && TRACING

so if distros want to enable that, they will enable BOOT_CONFIG too,
transitively. And other subsystems would simply depend on it the same if
they wanna use bootconfig.

But the way we supply command line args now ain't broke. And they normal
user doesn't care - grub simply pastes them everywhere.

Don't get me wrong - I don't mind using a bootconfig. I simply don't see
a compelling argument to have it enabled everywhere and by default and
think that other stuff selecting it is perfectly fine. IMO, of course.

Thx.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

https://people.kernel.org/tglx/notes-about-netiquette

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-10 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-14 21:03 [for-next][PATCH 00/26] tracing: Updates for 5.6 Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 01/26] perf: Make struct ring_buffer less ambiguous Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 02/26] tracing: Rename trace_buffer to array_buffer Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 03/26] tracing: Make struct ring_buffer less ambiguous Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 04/26] bootconfig: Add Extra Boot Config support Steven Rostedt
2020-02-06 11:54   ` Borislav Petkov
2020-02-06 14:41     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-06 17:20       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-02-07  0:30         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-07  8:49           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-02-07 13:17             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-07 14:28               ` [PATCH] bootconfig: Allocate xbc_nodes array dynamically Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-06 17:58       ` [for-next][PATCH 04/26] bootconfig: Add Extra Boot Config support Borislav Petkov
2020-02-06 18:10         ` Randy Dunlap
2020-02-06 22:39           ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-06 22:51             ` Borislav Petkov
2020-02-07  8:59             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-02-07  2:46         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-07 11:41           ` Borislav Petkov
2020-02-07 15:06             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-10 11:25               ` Borislav Petkov
2020-02-10 15:10                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-10 17:40                   ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2020-02-11  2:02                     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-18 13:27                       ` Borislav Petkov
2020-02-18 17:57                         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-02-18 19:38                           ` Borislav Petkov
2020-02-19  2:26                             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-19  2:26                           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-19  2:26                         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-11  9:25                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 05/26] bootconfig: Load boot config from the tail of initrd Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 06/26] tools: bootconfig: Add bootconfig command Steven Rostedt
2020-02-07 13:02   ` Michael Ellerman
2020-02-07 13:39     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-07 13:55     ` [PATCH] tools/bootconfig: Fix wrong __VA_ARGS__ usage Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-08 11:10       ` Michael Ellerman
2020-02-09  4:09         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-09 13:05         ` [PATCH] tools/bootconfig: Suppress non-error messages Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-10  2:06           ` Michael Ellerman
2020-02-10  7:18             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-02-10  9:50               ` Michael Ellerman
2020-02-10  9:50       ` [PATCH] tools/bootconfig: Fix wrong __VA_ARGS__ usage Michael Ellerman
2020-02-10 17:07         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 07/26] tools: bootconfig: Add bootconfig test script Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 08/26] proc: bootconfig: Add /proc/bootconfig to show boot config list Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 09/26] init/main.c: Alloc initcall_command_line in do_initcall() and free it Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 10/26] bootconfig: init: Allow admin to use bootconfig for kernel command line Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 11/26] bootconfig: init: Allow admin to use bootconfig for init " Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 12/26] Documentation: bootconfig: Add a doc for extended boot config Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 13/26] tracing: Apply soft-disabled and filter to tracepoints printk Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 14/26] tracing: kprobes: Output kprobe event to printk buffer Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 15/26] tracing: kprobes: Register to dynevent earlier stage Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 16/26] tracing: Accept different type for synthetic event fields Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 17/26] tracing: Add NULL trace-array check in print_synth_event() Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 18/26] tracing/boot: Add boot-time tracing Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 19/26] tracing/boot: Add per-event settings Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 20/26] tracing/boot Add kprobe event support Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 21/26] tracing/boot: Add synthetic " Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 22/26] tracing/boot: Add instance node support Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 23/26] tracing/boot: Add cpu_mask option support Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 24/26] tracing/boot: Add function tracer filter options Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 25/26] Documentation: tracing: Add boot-time tracing document Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 21:03 ` [for-next][PATCH 26/26] tracing: trigger: Replace unneeded RCU-list traversals Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 22:11   ` Steven Rostedt

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