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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: KP Singh <kpsingh@chromium.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	"Brendan Jackman" <jackmanb@google.com>,
	"Florent Revest" <revest@google.com>,
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	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 04/10] bpf: lsm: Add mutable hooks list for the BPF LSM
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 19:12:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200211031208.e6osrcathampoog7@ast-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200123152440.28956-5-kpsingh@chromium.org>

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 07:24:34AM -0800, KP Singh wrote:
> +#define CALL_BPF_LSM_INT_HOOKS(FUNC, ...) ({			\
> +	int _ret = 0;						\
> +	do {							\
> +		struct security_hook_list *P;			\
> +		int _idx;					\
> +								\
> +		if (hlist_empty(&bpf_lsm_hook_heads.FUNC))	\
> +			break;					\
> +								\
> +		_idx = bpf_lsm_srcu_read_lock();		\
> +								\
> +		hlist_for_each_entry(P,				\
> +			&bpf_lsm_hook_heads.FUNC, list) {	\
> +			_ret = P->hook.FUNC(__VA_ARGS__);		\
> +			if (_ret && IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SECURITY_BPF_ENFORCE)) \
> +				break;				\
> +		}						\
> +		bpf_lsm_srcu_read_unlock(_idx);			\
> +	} while (0);						\
> +	IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_SECURITY_BPF_ENFORCE) ? _ret : 0;	\
> +})

This extra CONFIG_SECURITY_BPF_ENFORCE doesn't make sense to me.
Why do all the work for bpf-lsm and ignore return code? Such framework already
exists. For audit only case the user could have kprobed security_*() in
security/security.c and had access to exactly the same data. There is no need
in any of these patches if audit the only use case.
Obviously bpf-lsm has to be capable of making go/no-go decision, so
my preference is to drop this extra kconfig knob.
I think the agreement seen in earlier comments in this thread that the prefered
choice is to always have bpf-based lsm to be equivalent to LSM_ORDER_LAST. In
such case how about using bpf-trampoline fexit logic instead?
Pros:
- no changes to security/ directory
- no changes to call_int_hook() macro
- patches 4, 5, 6 no longer necessary
- when security is off all security_*() hooks do single
  if (hlist_empty(&bpf_lsm_hook_heads.FUNC)) check.
  With patch 4 there will two such checks. Tiny perf penalty.
  With fexit approach there will be no extra check.
- fexit approach is fast even on kernels compiled with retpoline, since
  its using direct calls
Cons:
- bpf trampoline so far is x86 only and arm64 support is wip

By plugging into fexit I'm proposing to let bpf-lsm prog type modify return
value. Currently bpf-fexit prog type has read-only access to it. Adding write
access is a straightforward verifier change. The bpf progs from patch 9 will
still look exactly the same way:
SEC("lsm/file_mprotect")
int BPF_PROG(mprotect_audit, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
            unsigned long reqprot, unsigned long prot) { ... }
The difference that libbpf will be finding btf_id of security_file_mprotect()
function and adding fexit trampoline to it instead of going via
security_list_options and its own lsm_hook_idx uapi. I think reusing existing
tracing facilities to attach and multiplex multiple programs is cleaner. More
code reuse. Unified testing of lsm and tracing, etc.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-11  3:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-23 15:24 [PATCH bpf-next v3 00/10] MAC and Audit policy using eBPF (KRSI) KP Singh
2020-01-23 15:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 01/10] bpf: btf: Add btf_type_by_name_kind KP Singh
2020-01-23 20:06   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-01-24 14:12     ` KP Singh
2020-01-23 15:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 02/10] bpf: lsm: Add a skeleton and config options KP Singh
2020-02-10 23:52   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-02-11 12:45     ` KP Singh
2020-01-23 15:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 03/10] bpf: lsm: Introduce types for eBPF based LSM KP Singh
2020-02-10 23:58   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-02-11 12:44     ` KP Singh
2020-01-23 15:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 04/10] bpf: lsm: Add mutable hooks list for the BPF LSM KP Singh
2020-01-23 17:03   ` Casey Schaufler
2020-01-23 17:59     ` KP Singh
2020-01-23 19:09       ` Casey Schaufler
2020-01-23 22:24         ` KP Singh
2020-01-23 23:50           ` Casey Schaufler
2020-01-24  1:25             ` KP Singh
2020-01-24 21:55               ` James Morris
2020-02-11  3:12   ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2020-02-11 12:43     ` KP Singh
2020-02-11 17:58       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-02-11 18:44         ` BPF LSM and fexit [was: [PATCH bpf-next v3 04/10] bpf: lsm: Add mutable hooks list for the BPF LSM] Jann Horn
2020-02-11 19:09           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-02-11 19:36             ` Jann Horn
2020-02-11 20:10               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-02-11 20:33                 ` Jann Horn
2020-02-11 21:32                   ` Jann Horn
2020-02-11 21:38                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-02-11 23:26                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-02-12  0:09                       ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-02-12  2:45                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-02-12 13:27                           ` Daniel Borkmann
2020-02-12 16:04                             ` KP Singh
2020-02-12 15:52                           ` Casey Schaufler
2020-02-12 16:26                             ` KP Singh
2020-02-12 18:59                               ` Casey Schaufler
2020-01-23 15:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 05/10] bpf: lsm: BTF API for LSM hooks KP Singh
2020-01-23 15:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 06/10] bpf: lsm: Implement attach, detach and execution KP Singh
2020-01-23 15:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 07/10] bpf: lsm: Make the allocated callback RO+X KP Singh
2020-01-23 15:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 08/10] tools/libbpf: Add support for BPF_PROG_TYPE_LSM KP Singh
2020-01-23 18:00   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2020-01-24 14:16     ` KP Singh
2020-01-23 15:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 09/10] bpf: lsm: Add selftests " KP Singh
2020-01-23 15:24 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 10/10] bpf: lsm: Add Documentation KP Singh

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