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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-erofs@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, cluster-devel@redhat.com,
	ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 09/19] mm: Add page_cache_readahead_limit
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 12:08:40 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200219010840.GX10776@dread.disaster.area> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200218195404.GD24185@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 11:54:04AM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 05:31:10PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 10:45:56AM -0800, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > From: "Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>
> > > 
> > > ext4 and f2fs have duplicated the guts of the readahead code so
> > > they can read past i_size.  Instead, separate out the guts of the
> > > readahead code so they can call it directly.
> > 
> > Gross and nasty (hosting non-stale data beyond EOF in the page
> > cache, that is).
> 
> I thought you meant sneaking changes into the VFS (that were rejected) by
> copying VFS code and modifying it ...

Well, now that you mention it... :P

> > > +/**
> > > + * page_cache_readahead_limit - Start readahead beyond a file's i_size.
> > > + * @mapping: File address space.
> > > + * @file: This instance of the open file; used for authentication.
> > > + * @offset: First page index to read.
> > > + * @end_index: The maximum page index to read.
> > > + * @nr_to_read: The number of pages to read.
> > > + * @lookahead_size: Where to start the next readahead.
> > > + *
> > > + * This function is for filesystems to call when they want to start
> > > + * readahead potentially beyond a file's stated i_size.  If you want
> > > + * to start readahead on a normal file, you probably want to call
> > > + * page_cache_async_readahead() or page_cache_sync_readahead() instead.
> > > + *
> > > + * Context: File is referenced by caller.  Mutexes may be held by caller.
> > > + * May sleep, but will not reenter filesystem to reclaim memory.
> > >   */
> > > -void __do_page_cache_readahead(struct address_space *mapping,
> > > -		struct file *filp, pgoff_t offset, unsigned long nr_to_read,
> > > -		unsigned long lookahead_size)
> > > +void page_cache_readahead_limit(struct address_space *mapping,
> > 
> > ... I don't think the function name conveys it's purpose. It's
> > really a ranged readahead that ignores where i_size lies. i.e
> > 
> > 	page_cache_readahead_range(mapping, start, end, nr_to_read)
> > 
> > seems like a better API to me, and then you can drop the "start
> > readahead beyond i_size" comments and replace it with "Range is not
> > limited by the inode's i_size and hence can be used to read data
> > stored beyond EOF into the page cache."
> 
> I'm concerned that calling it 'range' implies "I want to read between
> start and end" rather than "I want to read nr_to_read at start, oh but
> don't go past end".
> 
> Maybe the right way to do this is have the three callers cap nr_to_read.
> Well, the one caller ... after all, f2fs and ext4 have no desire to
> cap the length.  Then we can call it page_cache_readahead_exceed() or
> page_cache_readahead_dangerous() or something else like that to make it
> clear that you shouldn't be calling it.

Fair point.

And in reading this, it occurred to me that what we are enabling is
an "out of bounds" readahead function. so
page_cache_readahead_OOB() or *_unbounded() might be a better name....

>   * Like add_to_page_cache_locked, but used to add newly allocated pages:
> diff --git a/mm/readahead.c b/mm/readahead.c
> index 9dd431fa16c9..cad26287ad8b 100644
> --- a/mm/readahead.c
> +++ b/mm/readahead.c
> @@ -142,45 +142,43 @@ static void read_pages(struct readahead_control *rac, struct list_head *pages)
>  	blk_finish_plug(&plug);
>  }
>  
> -/*
> - * __do_page_cache_readahead() actually reads a chunk of disk.  It allocates
> - * the pages first, then submits them for I/O. This avoids the very bad
> - * behaviour which would occur if page allocations are causing VM writeback.
> - * We really don't want to intermingle reads and writes like that.
> +/**
> + * page_cache_readahead_exceed - Start unchecked readahead.
> + * @mapping: File address space.
> + * @file: This instance of the open file; used for authentication.
> + * @index: First page index to read.
> + * @nr_to_read: The number of pages to read.
> + * @lookahead_size: Where to start the next readahead.
> + *
> + * This function is for filesystems to call when they want to start
> + * readahead beyond a file's stated i_size.  This is almost certainly
> + * not the function you want to call.  Use page_cache_async_readahead()
> + * or page_cache_sync_readahead() instead.
> + *
> + * Context: File is referenced by caller.  Mutexes may be held by caller.
> + * May sleep, but will not reenter filesystem to reclaim memory.

Yup, looks much better.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-19  1:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-17 18:45 [PATCH v6 00/19] Change readahead API Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 01/19] mm: Return void from various readahead functions Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18  4:47   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 21:05   ` John Hubbard
2020-02-18 21:21     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18 21:52       ` John Hubbard
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 02/19] mm: Ignore return value of ->readpages Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18  4:48   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 21:33   ` John Hubbard
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 03/19] mm: Use readahead_control to pass arguments Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18  5:03   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 13:56     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18 22:46       ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 22:52         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18 22:22   ` John Hubbard
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 04/19] mm: Rearrange readahead loop Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18  5:08   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 13:57     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18 22:48       ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 22:33   ` John Hubbard
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 04/16] mm: Tweak readahead loop slightly Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18 22:57   ` John Hubbard
2020-02-18 23:00     ` John Hubbard
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 05/16] mm: Put readahead pages in cache earlier Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 05/19] mm: Remove 'page_offset' from readahead loop Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18  5:14   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 23:08   ` John Hubbard
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 06/16] mm: Add readahead address space operation Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 06/19] mm: rename readahead loop variable to 'i' Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18  5:33   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 23:11   ` John Hubbard
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 07/16] mm: Add page_cache_readahead_limit Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 07/19] mm: Put readahead pages in cache earlier Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18  6:14   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 15:42     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  0:59       ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-19  0:01   ` John Hubbard
2020-02-19  1:02     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  1:13       ` John Hubbard
2020-02-19  3:24       ` John Hubbard
2020-02-19 14:41     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19 14:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-02-19 15:01         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19 20:24           ` John Hubbard
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 08/16] fs: Convert mpage_readpages to mpage_readahead Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 08/19] mm: Add readahead address space operation Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18  6:21   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 16:10     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  1:04       ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-19  0:12   ` John Hubbard
2020-02-19  3:10   ` Eric Biggers
2020-02-19  3:35     ` Eric Biggers
2020-02-19 16:52     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 09/16] btrfs: Convert from readpages to readahead Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 09/19] mm: Add page_cache_readahead_limit Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18  6:31   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 19:54     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  1:08       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2020-02-19  1:32   ` John Hubbard
2020-02-19  2:23     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  2:46       ` John Hubbard
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 10/16] erofs: Convert uncompressed files from readpages to readahead Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 10/19] fs: Convert mpage_readpages to mpage_readahead Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18  1:51   ` [Ocfs2-devel] " Joseph Qi
2020-02-18  6:37   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-19  2:48   ` John Hubbard
2020-02-19  3:28   ` Eric Biggers
2020-02-19  3:47     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  3:55       ` Eric Biggers
2020-02-17 18:45 ` [PATCH v6 11/19] btrfs: Convert from readpages to readahead Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18  6:57   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 21:12     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  1:23       ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 11/16] erofs: Convert compressed files " Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  2:34   ` Gao Xiang
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 12/19] erofs: Convert uncompressed " Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  2:39   ` Gao Xiang
2020-02-19  3:04   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 12/16] ext4: Convert " Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 13/19] erofs: Convert compressed files " Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  3:08   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 13/16] f2fs: Convert " Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 14/19] ext4: " Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  3:16   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-19  3:29   ` Eric Biggers
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 14/16] fuse: " Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 15/19] f2fs: " Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 15/16] iomap: " Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 16/19] fuse: " Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  3:22   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 16/16] mm: Use memalloc_nofs_save in readahead path Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 17/19] iomap: Restructure iomap_readpages_actor Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  3:17   ` John Hubbard
2020-02-19  5:35     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  3:29   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-19  6:04     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  6:40       ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-19 17:06         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 18/19] iomap: Convert from readpages to readahead Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  3:40   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-17 18:46 ` [PATCH v6 19/19] mm: Use memalloc_nofs_save in readahead path Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  3:43   ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-19  5:22     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-17 18:48 ` [PATCH v6 00/19] Change readahead API Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18  4:56 ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 13:42   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-18 21:26     ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-19  3:45       ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-19  3:48         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-02-19  3:57           ` Dave Chinner
2020-02-18 20:49 ` John Hubbard

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