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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] mm: memcontrol: clean up and document effective low/min calculations
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:46:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200226164632.GL27066@blackbody.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200225184014.GC10257@cmpxchg.org>


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On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 01:40:14PM -0500, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> Hm, this example doesn't change with my patch because there is no
> "floating" protection that gets distributed among the siblings.
Maybe it had changed even earlier and the example obsoleted.

> In my testing with the above parameters, the equilibrium still comes
> out to roughly this distribution.
I'm attaching my test (10-times smaller) and I'm getting these results:

> /sys/fs/cgroup/test.slice/memory.current:838750208
> /sys/fs/cgroup/test.slice/pressure.service/memory.current:616972288
> /sys/fs/cgroup/test.slice/test-A.slice/memory.current:221782016
> /sys/fs/cgroup/test.slice/test-A.slice/B.service/memory.current:123428864
> /sys/fs/cgroup/test.slice/test-A.slice/C.service/memory.current:93495296
> /sys/fs/cgroup/test.slice/test-A.slice/D.service/memory.current:4702208
> /sys/fs/cgroup/test.slice/test-A.slice/E.service/memory.current:155648

(I'm running that on 5.6.0-rc2 + first two patches of your series.)

That's IMO closer to the my simulation (1.16:0.84)
than the example prediction (1.3:0.6)

> It's just to illustrate the pressure weight, not to reflect each
> factor that can influence the equilibrium.
But it's good to have some idea about the equilibrium when configuring
the values. 

> I think it still has value to gain understanding of how it works, no?
Alas, the example confused me so that I had to write the simulation to
get grasp of it :-)

And even when running actual code now, I'd say the values in the
original example are only one of the equlibriums but definitely not
reachable from the stated initial conditions.

> > > @@ -6272,12 +6262,63 @@ struct cgroup_subsys memory_cgrp_subsys = {
> > >   * for next usage. This part is intentionally racy, but it's ok,
> > >   * as memory.low is a best-effort mechanism.
> > Although it's a different issue but since this updates the docs I'm
> > mentioning it -- we treat memory.min the same, i.e. it's subject to the
> > same race, however, it's not meant to be best effort. I didn't look into
> > outcomes of potential misaccounting but the comment seems to miss impact
> > on memory.min protection.
> 
> Yeah I think we can delete that bit.
Erm, which part?
Make the racy behavior undocumented or that it applies both memory.low
and memory.min?

> I believe we cleared this up in the parallel thread, but just in case:
> reclaim can happen due to a memory.max set lower in the
> tree. memory.low propagation is always relative from the reclaim
> scope, not the system-wide root cgroup.
Clear now.

Michal

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-26 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-19 20:07 [PATCH v2 0/3] mm: memcontrol: recursive memory protection Johannes Weiner
2019-12-19 20:07 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] mm: memcontrol: fix memory.low proportional distribution Johannes Weiner
2020-01-30 11:49   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-03 21:21     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-03 21:38       ` Roman Gushchin
2019-12-19 20:07 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] mm: memcontrol: clean up and document effective low/min calculations Johannes Weiner
2020-01-30 12:54   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-21 17:10   ` Michal Koutný
2020-02-25 18:40     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-26 16:46       ` Michal Koutný [this message]
2020-02-26 19:40         ` Johannes Weiner
2019-12-19 20:07 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] mm: memcontrol: recursive memory.low protection Johannes Weiner
2020-01-30 17:00   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-03 21:52     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-10 15:21       ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-11 16:47       ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-12 17:08         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-13  7:40           ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-13 13:23             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-13 15:46               ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-13 17:41                 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-13 17:58                   ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-14  7:59                     ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-13 13:53             ` Tejun Heo
2020-02-13 15:47               ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-13 15:52                 ` Tejun Heo
2020-02-13 16:36                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-13 16:57                     ` Tejun Heo
2020-02-14  7:15                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-14 13:57                         ` Tejun Heo
2020-02-14 15:13                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-14 15:40                             ` Tejun Heo
2020-02-14 16:53                             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-14 17:17                               ` Tejun Heo
2020-02-17  8:41                               ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-18 19:52                                 ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-21 10:11                                   ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-21 15:43                                     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-25 12:20                                       ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-25 18:17                                         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-26 17:56                                           ` Michal Hocko
2020-02-21 17:12   ` Michal Koutný
2020-02-21 18:58     ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-25 13:37       ` Michal Koutný
2020-02-25 15:03         ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-26 13:22           ` Michal Koutný
2020-02-26 15:05             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-02-27 13:35               ` Michal Koutný
2020-02-27 15:06                 ` Johannes Weiner
2019-12-19 20:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] mm: memcontrol: recursive memory protection Tejun Heo
2019-12-20  4:06 ` Roman Gushchin
2019-12-20  4:29 ` Chris Down

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