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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Hoan Tran <Hoan@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pavel.tatashin@microsoft.com>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] mm: Enable CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES by default for NUMA
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 17:26:06 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200330092606.GC6352@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200330074246.GA14243@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On 03/30/20 at 09:42am, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Sat 28-03-20 11:31:17, Hoan Tran wrote:
> > In NUMA layout which nodes have memory ranges that span across other nodes,
> > the mm driver can detect the memory node id incorrectly.
> > 
> > For example, with layout below
> > Node 0 address: 0000 xxxx 0000 xxxx
> > Node 1 address: xxxx 1111 xxxx 1111
> > 
> > Note:
> >  - Memory from low to high
> >  - 0/1: Node id
> >  - x: Invalid memory of a node
> > 
> > When mm probes the memory map, without CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
> > config, mm only checks the memory validity but not the node id.
> > Because of that, Node 1 also detects the memory from node 0 as below
> > when it scans from the start address to the end address of node 1.
> > 
> > Node 0 address: 0000 xxxx xxxx xxxx
> > Node 1 address: xxxx 1111 1111 1111
> > 
> > This layout could occur on any architecture. Most of them enables
> > this config by default with CONFIG_NUMA. This patch, by default, enables
> > CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES or uses early_pfn_in_nid() for NUMA.
> 
> I am not opposed to this at all. It reduces the config space and that is
> a good thing on its own. The history has shown that meory layout might
> be really wild wrt NUMA. The config is only used for early_pfn_in_nid
> which is clearly an overkill.
> 
> Your description doesn't really explain why this is safe though. The
> history of this config is somehow messy, though. Mike has tried
> to remove it a94b3ab7eab4 ("[PATCH] mm: remove arch independent
> NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES") just to be reintroduced by 7516795739bd
> ("[PATCH] Reintroduce NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES for powerpc") without any
> reasoning what so ever. This doesn't make it really easy see whether
> reasons for reintroduction are still there. Maybe there are some subtle
> dependencies. I do not see any TBH but that might be burried deep in an
> arch specific code.

Since on all ARCHes NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES has dependency on NUMA,
replacing it with CONFIG_NUMA seems no risk. Just for those ARCHes which
don't have CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES before, it involves a tiny
performance degradation. Besides, s390 has removed support of
NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES already.

commit 701dc81e7412daaf3c5bf4bc55d35c8b1525112a
Author: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
Date:   Wed Feb 19 13:29:15 2020 +0100

    s390/mm: remove fake numa support

> 
> > v3:
> >  * Revise the patch description
> > 
> > V2:
> >  * Revise the patch description
> > 
> > Hoan Tran (5):
> >   mm: Enable CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES by default for NUMA
> >   powerpc: Kconfig: Remove CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
> >   x86: Kconfig: Remove CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
> >   sparc: Kconfig: Remove CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
> >   s390: Kconfig: Remove CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES
> > 
> >  arch/powerpc/Kconfig | 9 ---------
> >  arch/s390/Kconfig    | 8 --------
> >  arch/sparc/Kconfig   | 9 ---------
> >  arch/x86/Kconfig     | 9 ---------
> >  mm/page_alloc.c      | 2 +-
> >  5 files changed, 1 insertion(+), 36 deletions(-)
> > 
> > -- 
> > 1.8.3.1
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-03-30  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-28 18:31 [PATCH v3 0/5] mm: Enable CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES by default for NUMA Hoan Tran
2020-03-28 18:31 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] " Hoan Tran
2020-03-28 18:31 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] powerpc: Kconfig: Remove CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES Hoan Tran
2020-03-28 18:31 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] x86: " Hoan Tran
2020-03-28 18:31 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] sparc: " Hoan Tran
2020-03-28 18:31 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] s390: " Hoan Tran
2020-03-29  0:19 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] mm: Enable CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES by default for NUMA Baoquan He
2020-03-30  7:44   ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-30  8:04     ` Baoquan He
2020-03-30  7:42 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-30  8:16   ` Baoquan He
2020-03-30  8:28     ` Baoquan He
2020-03-30  9:21   ` Mike Rapoport
2020-03-30  9:58     ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-30 10:26       ` Mike Rapoport
2020-03-30 10:43         ` Baoquan He
2020-03-31 21:56       ` [PATCH RFC] mm: remove CONFIG_HAVE_MEMBLOCK_NODE_MAP (was: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5] mm: Enable CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES by default for NUMA) Mike Rapoport
2020-04-01  5:42         ` Baoquan He
2020-04-01  7:51           ` Mike Rapoport
2020-04-02  8:01             ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-09 14:41               ` Baoquan He
2020-04-09 15:33                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-10  6:46                   ` Baoquan He
2020-03-30  9:26   ` Baoquan He [this message]
2020-03-30 17:51   ` [PATCH v3 0/5] mm: Enable CONFIG_NODES_SPAN_OTHER_NODES by default for NUMA Mike Rapoport
2020-03-30 18:23     ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-31  8:14       ` Mike Rapoport
2020-03-31  8:55         ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-31 14:03           ` Baoquan He
2020-03-31 14:21             ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-31 14:31               ` Baoquan He
2020-04-03  4:46                 ` Hoan Tran
2020-04-03  7:09                   ` Baoquan He
2020-04-03 16:36                     ` Hoan Tran
2020-04-09 16:27               ` Mike Rapoport
2020-04-10  6:50                 ` Baoquan He

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