From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, willy@infradead.org, peterz@infradead.org,
neilb@suse.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] rcu/tree: Use GFP_MEMALLOC for alloc memory to free memory pattern
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 14:14:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200401131426.GN3772@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200401072359.GC22681@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 09:23:59AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > Can you suggest what prevents other users of GFP_MEMALLOC from doing that
> > also?
>
> There is no explicit mechanism which is indeed unfortunate. The only
> user real user of the flag is Swap over NFS AFAIK. I have never dared to
> look into details on how the complete reserves depletion is prevented.
> Mel would be much better fit here.
>
It's "prevented" by the fact that every other memory allocation request
that is not involved with reclaiming memory gets stalled in the allocator
with only the swap subsystem making any progress until the machine
recovers. Potentially only kswapd is still running until the system
recovers if stressed hard enough.
The naming is terrible but is mased on kswapd's use of the PF_MEMALLOC
flag. For swap-over-nfs, GFP_MEMALLOC saying "this allocation request is
potentially needed for kswapd to make forward progress and not freeze".
I would not be comfortable with kfree_rcu() doing the same thing because
there can be many callers in parallel and it's freeing slab objects.
Swap over NFS should free at least one page, freeing a slab object is
not guaranteed to free anything.
--
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-04-01 13:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-31 13:16 [PATCH RFC] rcu/tree: Use GFP_MEMALLOC for alloc memory to free memory pattern Joel Fernandes (Google)
2020-03-31 14:04 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-03-31 15:09 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-03-31 16:01 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-03-31 17:02 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-03-31 17:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-03-31 18:30 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-01 12:25 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-01 13:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-01 18:16 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-01 18:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-01 18:37 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-01 18:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-01 19:05 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-01 19:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-01 19:35 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-03-31 14:58 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-03-31 15:34 ` Michal Hocko
2020-03-31 16:01 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-03-31 22:19 ` NeilBrown
2020-04-01 3:25 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-04-01 4:52 ` NeilBrown
2020-04-01 7:23 ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-01 11:14 ` joel
2020-04-01 12:05 ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-01 13:14 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2020-04-01 14:45 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-03-31 16:12 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-01 7:09 ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-01 12:32 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-01 12:55 ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-01 13:08 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-01 13:15 ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-01 13:22 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-01 15:28 ` Michal Hocko
2020-04-01 15:46 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2020-04-01 15:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-01 16:10 ` Michal Hocko
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