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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
	Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: On trace_*_rcuidle functions in modules
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 18:51:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200415185121.381a4bc3@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200415220459.GE17661@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72>

On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 15:04:59 -0700
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 05:49:18PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 14:02:04 -0700
> > John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org> wrote:
> >   
> > > 
> > > So in my case your concerns may not be a problem, but I guess
> > > generally it might. Though I'd hope the callback would be unregistered
> > > (and whatever waiting for the grace period to complete be done) before
> > > the module removal is complete. But maybe I'm still missing your
> > > point?  
> > 
> > Hmm, you may have just brought up a problem here...
> > 
> > You're saying that cpu_pm_register_notifier() callers are called from non
> > RCU watching context? If that's the case, we have this:
> > 
> > int cpu_pm_unregister_notifier(struct notifier_block *nb)
> > {
> > 	return atomic_notifier_chain_unregister(&cpu_pm_notifier_chain, nb);
> > }
> > 
> > And this:
> > 
> > int atomic_notifier_chain_unregister(struct atomic_notifier_head *nh,
> > 		struct notifier_block *n)
> > {
> > 	unsigned long flags;
> > 	int ret;
> > 
> > 	spin_lock_irqsave(&nh->lock, flags);
> > 	ret = notifier_chain_unregister(&nh->head, n);
> > 	spin_unlock_irqrestore(&nh->lock, flags);
> > 	synchronize_rcu();
> > 	return ret;
> > }
> > 
> > Which means that if something registered a cpu_pm notifier, then
> > unregistered it, and freed whatever the notifier accesses, then there's a
> > chance that the synchronize_rcu() can return before the called notifier
> > finishes, and anything that notifier accesses could have been freed.
> > 
> > I believe that module code should not be able to be run in RCU non watching
> > context, and neither should notifiers. I think we just stumbled on a bug.
> > 
> > Paul?  
> 
> Or we say that such modules cannot be unloaded.  Or that such modules'
> exit handlers, after disentangling themselves from the idle loop, must
> invoke synchronize_rcu_rude() or similar, just as modules that use
> call_rcu() are currently required to invoke rcu_barrier().
> 
> Or is it possible to upgrade the protection that modules use?
> 
> My guess is that invoking rcu_irq_enter() and rcu_irq_exit() around every
> potential call into module code out of the PM code is a non-starter,
> but I cannot prove that either way.
>

No this has nothing to do with modules. This is a bug right now with the
cpu_pm notifier (after looking at the code, it's not a bug right now, see
below).

Say you have something that allocates some data and registers a
callback to the cpu_pm notifier that access that data. Then for some
reason, you want to remove that notifier and free the data. Usually you
would do:

	cpu_pm_unregister_notifier(my_notifier);
	kfree(my_data);

But the problem is that the callback of that my_notifier could be executing
in a RCU non-watching space, and the cpu_pm_unregister_notifier() can
return before the my_notifier is done, and the my_data is freed. Then the
callback for the my_notifier could still be accessing the my_data.


/me goes and reads the code and sees this is not an issue, and you can
ignore the above concern.

I was about to suggest a patch, but that has already been written...

313c8c16ee62b ("PM / CPU: replace raw_notifier with atomic_notifier")

Which surrounds the notifier callbacks with rcu_irq_enter_irqson()

Which means that if John moves the code to use the notifier, then he could
also remove the _rcuidle(), because RCU will be watching.

-- Steve

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-04-15 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-15  2:20 On trace_*_rcuidle functions in modules John Stultz
2020-04-15  2:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-15  3:47   ` John Stultz
2020-04-15 13:12     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-15 12:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-15 19:56   ` John Stultz
2020-04-15 20:14     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-15 20:17       ` John Stultz
2020-04-15 20:41         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-15 21:02           ` John Stultz
2020-04-15 21:49             ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-15 22:04               ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-15 22:42                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-15 22:53                   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-15 22:53                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-15 22:51                 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2020-04-15 22:54                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-04-16  0:06                   ` John Stultz
2020-04-16  0:48                     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-16  1:02                       ` Bjorn Andersson
2020-04-16  1:24                         ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-16  2:17                       ` John Stultz
2020-04-15 22:07               ` John Stultz
2020-04-15 22:40       ` Peter Zijlstra

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