From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,MENTIONS_GIT_HOSTING,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249E0C54FCB for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09BFA206CD for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727986AbgDVPBp (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:01:45 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:50776 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725934AbgDVPBo (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:01:44 -0400 Received: from ZenIV.linux.org.uk (zeniv.linux.org.uk [IPv6:2002:c35c:fd02::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73E41C03C1A9; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 08:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viro by ZenIV.linux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1jRGs7-008WRP-P8; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 15:01:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 16:01:07 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Nate Karstens Cc: Jeff Layton , "J. Bruce Fields" , Arnd Bergmann , Richard Henderson , Ivan Kokshaysky , Matt Turner , "James E.J. Bottomley" , Helge Deller , "David S. Miller" , Jakub Kicinski , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Changli Gao Subject: Re: Implement close-on-fork Message-ID: <20200422150107.GK23230@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20200420071548.62112-1-nate.karstens@garmin.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200420071548.62112-1-nate.karstens@garmin.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 02:15:44AM -0500, Nate Karstens wrote: > Series of 4 patches to implement close-on-fork. Tests have been > published to https://github.com/nkarstens/ltp/tree/close-on-fork. > > close-on-fork addresses race conditions in system(), which > (depending on the implementation) is non-atomic in that it > first calls a fork() and then an exec(). > > This functionality was approved by the Austin Common Standards > Revision Group for inclusion in the next revision of the POSIX > standard (see issue 1318 in the Austin Group Defect Tracker). What exactly the reasons are and why would we want to implement that? Pardon me, but going by the previous history, "The Austin Group Says It's Good" is more of a source of concern regarding the merits, general sanity and, most of all, good taste of a proposal. I'm not saying that it's automatically bad, but you'll have to go much deeper into the rationale of that change before your proposal is taken seriously.