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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@gmail.com>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	"open list:HARDWARE RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR CORE" 
	<linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, George Burgess <gbiv@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Kbuild: disable FORTIFY_SOURCE on clang-10
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 16:19:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <202005051617.F9B32B5526@keescook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHmME9qs0iavoBqd_z_7Xibyz7oxY+FRt+sHyy+sBa1wQc66ww@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 04:37:38PM -0600, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 4:25 PM Nathan Chancellor
> <natechancellor@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I believe these issues are one in the same. I did a reverse bisect with
> > Arnd's test case and converged on George's first patch:
> >
> > https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/commit/2dd17ff08165e6118e70f00e22b2c36d2d4e0a9a
> >
> > I think that in lieu of this patch, we should have that patch and its
> > follow-up fix merged into 10.0.1.
> 
> If this is fixed in 10.0.1, do we even need to patch the kernel at
> all? Or can we just leave it be, considering most organizations using
> clang know what they're getting into? I'd personally prefer the
> latter, so that we don't clutter things.

I agree: I'd rather this was fixed in 10.0.1 (but if we do want a
kernel-side work-around for 10.0.0, I would suggest doing the version
check in the Kconfig for FORTIFY_SOURCE instead of in the Makefile,
as that's where these things are supposed to live these days).

(Though as was mentioned, it's likely that FORTIFY_SOURCE isn't working
_at all_ under Clang, so I may still send a patch to depend on !clang
just to avoid surprises until it's fixed, but I haven't had time to
chase down a solution yet.)

-- 
Kees Cook

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-05 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-05 13:59 [PATCH] crypto: curve25519-hacl64 - Disable fortify-source for clang-10 Arnd Bergmann
2020-05-05 21:39 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-05-05 21:48   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-05-05 21:49     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-05-05 21:55   ` [PATCH] Kbuild: disable FORTIFY_SOURCE on clang-10 Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-05-05 22:02     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-05-05 22:25       ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-05-05 22:37         ` George Burgess IV
2020-05-05 22:37         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-05-05 23:19           ` Kees Cook [this message]
2020-05-05 23:22             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-05-05 23:22               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-05-05 23:36               ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-05-06  2:53                 ` Kees Cook
2020-05-06  0:14             ` [PATCH v2] security: disable FORTIFY_SOURCE on clang Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-05-06  0:57               ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-05-06  2:54               ` Kees Cook
2020-05-06  3:34                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2020-05-06  3:53                 ` Nathan Chancellor
2020-05-06 16:48                   ` George Burgess

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