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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
	bhelgaas@google.com, Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
	Chris Packham <chris.packham@alliedtelesis.co.nz>,
	Yicong Yang <yangyicong@hisilicon.com>,
	Krzysztof Wilczynski <kw@linux.com>,
	"open list:PCI SUBSYSTEM" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] PCI/ASPM: Enable ASPM for bridge-to-bridge link
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 16:29:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200506212947.GA455758@bjorn-Precision-5520> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200506061438.GR487496@lahna.fi.intel.com>

On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 09:14:38AM +0300, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 01:34:21AM +0800, Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
> > The TI PCIe-to-PCI bridge prevents the Intel SoC from entering power
> > state deeper than PC3 due to disabled ASPM, consumes lots of unnecessary
> > power. On Windows ASPM L1 is enabled on the device and its upstream
> > bridge, so it can make the Intel SoC reach PC8 or PC10 to save lots of
> > power.
> > 
> > In short, ASPM always gets disabled on bridge-to-bridge link.
> 
> Excelent finding :) I've heard several reports complaining that we can't
> enter PC10 when TBT is enabled and I guess this explains it.

I'm curious about this.  I first read this patch as affecting
garden-variety Links between a Root Port or Downstream Port and the
Upstream Port of a switch.  But the case we're talking about is
specifically when the downstream device is PCI_EXP_TYPE_PCI_BRIDGE,
i.e., a PCIe to PCI/PCI-X bridge, not a switch.

AFAICT, a Link to a PCI bridge is still a normal Link and ASPM should
still work.  I'm sort of surprised that you'd find such a PCIe to
PCI/PCI-X bridge in a Thunderbolt topology, but maybe that's a common
thing?

I guess "PC8" and "PC10" are some sort of Intel-specific power states?

> > The special case was part of first ASPM introduction patch, commit
> > 7d715a6c1ae5 ("PCI: add PCI Express ASPM support"). However, it didn't
> > explain why ASPM needs to be disabled in special bridge-to-bridge case.
> > 
> > Let's remove the the special case, as PCIe spec already envisioned ASPM
> > on bridge-to-bridge link.
> > 
> > Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=207571
> > Signed-off-by: Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>
> 
> Reviewed-by: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-06 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-04  7:02 [PATCH] PCI: Enable ASPM L1 on TI PCIe-to-PCI bridge Kai-Heng Feng
2020-05-04 14:15 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-05-05 12:27 ` [PATCH v2] PCI/ASPM: Enable ASPM for root complex <-> bridge <-> bridge case Kai-Heng Feng
2020-05-05 13:38   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-05-05 14:00     ` Kai-Heng Feng
2020-05-05 15:45       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-05-05 17:34   ` [PATCH v3] PCI/ASPM: Enable ASPM for bridge-to-bridge link Kai-Heng Feng
2020-05-06  6:14     ` Mika Westerberg
2020-05-06 21:29       ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2020-05-07 11:50         ` Mika Westerberg
2020-05-07 22:19     ` Bjorn Helgaas

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