From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>,
paulmck <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"Joel Fernandes, Google" <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>, Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch V4 part 1 35/36] x86: Replace ist_enter() with nmi_enter()
Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 12:12:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200508171203.kjhpk4c6zo3xy3ci@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200508085002.GT5298@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 10:50:02AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 02:17:58PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > ----- On May 7, 2020, at 2:04 PM, Andy Lutomirski luto@kernel.org wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 7:14 AM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > >>
> > >> A few exceptions (like #DB and #BP) can happen at any location in the code,
> > >> this then means that tracers should treat events from these exceptions as
> > >> NMI-like. The interrupted context could be holding locks with interrupts
> > >> disabled for instance.
> > >>
> > >> Similarly, #MC is an actual NMI-like exception.
> > >
> > > Is it permissible to send a signal from inside nmi_enter()? I imagine
> > > so, but I just want to make sure.
> >
> > If you mean sending a proper signal, I would guess not.
> >
> > I suspect you'll rather want to use "irq_work()" from NMI context to ensure
> > the rest of the work (e.g. sending a signal or a wakeup) is performed from
> > IRQ context very soon after the NMI, rather than from NMI context.
> >
> > AFAIK this is how this is done today by perf, ftrace, ebpf, and lttng.
>
> What Mathieu says. But I suspect you want to keep reading until
> part4-18. That should get you what you really want.
LALALALA
At least give a spoiler alert for those of us still enjoying part 1!
--
Josh
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Thread overview: 178+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-05 13:16 [patch V4 part 1 00/36] x86/entry: Entry/exception code rework, preparatory patches Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 01/36] rcu: Add comments marking transitions between RCU watching and not Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 02/36] x86/hw_breakpoint: Prevent data breakpoints on cpu_entry_area Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 8:14 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-05-06 12:11 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-09 9:00 ` Lai Jiangshan
2020-05-09 9:23 ` Lai Jiangshan
2020-05-09 19:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-19 19:58 ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 03/36] sched: Clean up scheduler_ipi() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 8:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 8:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-05-06 9:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 10:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-05-06 12:37 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-06 15:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 15:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-06 18:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-06 18:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-06 18:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-12 15:13 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra (Intel)
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 04/36] sched: Make scheduler_ipi inline Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 12:42 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-12 15:13 ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 05/36] x86/entry: Flip _TIF_SIGPENDING and _TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME handling Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 11:53 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-05-06 12:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 15:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-06 13:06 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-06 16:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-05-07 17:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-13 20:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-13 21:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-05-13 22:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-14 0:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-14 0:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-05-14 0:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-14 1:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-14 2:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-14 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 06/36] compiler: Simple READ/WRITE_ONCE() implementations Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 13:11 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-06 13:33 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-06 15:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-06 16:33 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 07/36] locking/atomics: Flip fallbacks and instrumentation Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 16:04 ` Mark Rutland
2020-05-07 23:41 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-05-08 8:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-12 14:36 ` [tip: locking/kcsan] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 08/36] x86/doublefault: Remove memmove() call Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 13:47 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-19 19:58 ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 09/36] x86/entry/64: Avoid pointless code when CONTEXT_TRACKING=n Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:58 ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 10/36] x86/entry: Remove the unused LOCKDEP_SYSEXIT cruft Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 13:52 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-19 19:58 ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 11/36] x86/kvm: Handle async page faults directly through do_page_fault() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 7:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-06 14:05 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-19 19:58 ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 12/36] x86/kvm: Sanitize kvm_async_pf_task_wait() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 17:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-05 21:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 7:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-06 12:53 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-05-06 15:13 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-19 19:58 ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 13/36] x86/kvm: Restrict ASYNC_PF to user space Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 7:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-06 15:29 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-19 19:58 ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 14/36] x86/entry: Get rid of ist_begin/end_non_atomic() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 15:34 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-07 17:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-13 22:57 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-14 0:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-05-15 9:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-15 13:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 15/36] kprobes: Lock kprobe_mutex while showing kprobe_blacklist Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 15:38 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-12 15:18 ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Masami Hiramatsu
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 16/36] kprobes: Support __kprobes blacklist in modules Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 15:47 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-12 15:18 ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Masami Hiramatsu
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 17/36] kprobes: Support NOKPROBE_SYMBOL() " Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 15:54 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-12 15:18 ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Masami Hiramatsu
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 18/36] samples/kprobes: Add __kprobes and NOKPROBE_SYMBOL() for handlers Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 15:57 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-12 15:18 ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Masami Hiramatsu
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 19/36] x86/entry: Exclude low level entry code from sanitizing Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 20:39 ` Brian Gerst
2020-05-06 15:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-06 16:03 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-13 22:58 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-19 19:58 ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 20/36] vmlinux.lds.h: Create section for protection against instrumentation Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 16:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2020-05-06 16:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-06 16:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 21/36] kprobes: Prevent probes in .noinstr.text section Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-08 6:30 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 22/36] tracing: Provide lockdep less trace_hardirqs_on/off() variants Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-07 17:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-07 18:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:58 ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 23/36] bug: Annotate WARN/BUG/stackfail as noinstr safe Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-13 23:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-19 19:58 ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 24/36] lockdep: Prepare for noinstr sections Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-08 0:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-05-08 8:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-19 19:58 ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 25/36] rcu/tree: Mark the idle relevant functions noinstr Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 18:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-19 19:48 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-09-28 22:22 ` Kim Phillips
2020-09-28 22:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-09-29 7:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-29 11:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-09-29 14:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-09-29 14:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 26/36] printk: Prepare for nested printk_nmi_enter() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Petr Mladek
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 27/36] arm64: Prepare arch_nmi_enter() for recursion Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-13 23:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-15 14:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-15 15:45 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-15 16:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-15 21:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-15 21:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 28/36] hardirq/nmi: Allow nested nmi_enter() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 29/36] x86/mce: Send #MC singal from task work Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-07 18:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-08 8:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08 21:30 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-14 14:16 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-05-13 23:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-14 17:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-14 17:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-14 14:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-05-14 16:03 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-14 16:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-14 16:39 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-05-14 17:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 30/36] lockdep: Always inline lockdep_{off,on}() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-13 23:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 31/36] printk: Disallow instrumenting print_nmi_enter() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 32/36] sh/ftrace: Move arch_ftrace_nmi_{enter,exit} into nmi exception Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-08 0:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 33/36] x86,tracing: Robustify ftrace_nmi_enter() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-08 6:19 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 34/36] sched,rcu,tracing: Avoid tracing before in_nmi() is correct Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 35/36] x86: Replace ist_enter() with nmi_enter() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-07 18:04 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-07 18:17 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-08 8:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08 17:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2020-05-14 0:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:16 ` [patch V4 part 1 36/36] rcu: Make RCU IRQ enter/exit functions rely on in_nmi() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 18:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-06 17:09 ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-19 19:52 ` [tip: core/rcu] " tip-bot2 for Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-07 18:05 ` [patch V4 part 1 00/36] x86/entry: Entry/exception code rework, preparatory patches Andy Lutomirski
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