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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	rjw@rjwysocki.net, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] mm: Get rid of vmalloc_sync_(un)mappings()
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 18:11:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200510011157.GU16070@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200509092516.GC2957@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Sat, May 09, 2020 at 11:25:16AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 11:34:07PM +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> > On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 09:20:00PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > The only concern I have is the pgd_lock lock hold times.
> > > 
> > > By not doing on-demand faults anymore, and consistently calling
> > > sync_global_*(), we iterate that pgd_list thing much more often than
> > > before if I'm not mistaken.
> > 
> > Should not be a problem, from what I have seen this function is not
> > called often on x86-64.  The vmalloc area needs to be synchronized at
> > the top-level there, which is by now P4D (with 4-level paging). And the
> > vmalloc area takes 64 entries, when all of them are populated the
> > function will not be called again.
> 
> Right; it's just that the moment you do trigger it, it'll iterate that
> pgd_list and that is potentially huge. Then again, that's not a new
> problem.
> 
> I suppose we can deal with it if/when it becomes an actual problem.
> 
> I had a quick look and I think it might be possible to make it an RCU
> managed list. We'd have to remove the pgd_list entry in
> put_task_struct_rcu_user(). Then we can play games in sync_global_*()
> and use RCU iteration. New tasks (which can be missed in the RCU
> iteration) will already have a full clone of the PGD anyway.

One of the things on my long-term todo list is to replace mm_struct.mmlist
with an XArray containing all mm_structs.  Then we can use one mark
to indicate maybe-swapped and another mark to indicate ... whatever it
is pgd_list indicates.  Iterating an XArray (whether the entire thing
or with marks) is RCU-safe and faster than iterating a linked list,
so this should solve the problem?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-10  1:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-08 14:40 [RFC PATCH 0/7] mm: Get rid of vmalloc_sync_(un)mappings() Joerg Roedel
2020-05-08 14:40 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] mm: Add functions to track page directory modifications Joerg Roedel
2020-05-08 14:40 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] mm/vmalloc: Track which page-table levels were modified Joerg Roedel
2020-05-08 19:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08 21:23     ` Joerg Roedel
2020-05-08 14:40 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] mm/ioremap: " Joerg Roedel
2020-05-08 14:40 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] x86/mm/64: Implement arch_sync_kernel_mappings() Joerg Roedel
2020-05-08 14:40 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] x86/mm/32: " Joerg Roedel
2020-05-08 14:40 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] mm: Remove vmalloc_sync_(un)mappings() Joerg Roedel
2020-05-08 18:58   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-05-08 21:24     ` Joerg Roedel
2020-05-08 14:40 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] x86/mm: Remove vmalloc faulting Joerg Roedel
2020-05-08 19:20 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] mm: Get rid of vmalloc_sync_(un)mappings() Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08 21:34   ` Joerg Roedel
2020-05-09  9:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-09 17:54       ` Joerg Roedel
2020-05-10  1:11       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2020-05-11  7:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-11 15:52           ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-05-11 16:08             ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-05-11 17:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08 21:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-08 21:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2020-05-08 23:49     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-09 17:52       ` Joerg Roedel
2020-05-09 19:05         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-09 21:57           ` Joerg Roedel
2020-05-10  5:05             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-10  8:15               ` Joerg Roedel
2020-05-11  7:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-11 15:36             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-11 17:06               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-11 19:14               ` Joerg Roedel
2020-05-11 19:36                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-12 15:02                   ` Joerg Roedel
2020-05-12 15:13                     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-05-11 20:50                 ` Steven Rostedt

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