From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6726CA90AF for ; Wed, 13 May 2020 13:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43E920657 for ; Wed, 13 May 2020 13:46:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S2388739AbgEMNqp (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 May 2020 09:46:45 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:40144 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726061AbgEMNqp (ORCPT ); Wed, 13 May 2020 09:46:45 -0400 Received: from gandalf.local.home (cpe-66-24-58-225.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.58.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CA549204EA; Wed, 13 May 2020 13:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 09:46:42 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Tetsuo Handa Cc: Petr Mladek , Sergey Senozhatsky , Michal Hocko , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Dmitry Safonov , Yafang Shao Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: Add loglevel for "do not print to consoles". Message-ID: <20200513094642.56bf50f7@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <20564555-7b84-f716-5dcd-978f76ad459a@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> References: <20200427062117.GC486@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain> <4dae86af-1d9a-f5a8-cff6-aa91ec038a79@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> <20200428121828.GP28637@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20200428154532.GU28637@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20200429142106.GG28637@dhcp22.suse.cz> <20200513062652.GM413@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain> <20200513100413.GH17734@linux-b0ei> <20564555-7b84-f716-5dcd-978f76ad459a@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 13 May 2020 20:03:53 +0900 Tetsuo Handa wrote: > I think that basically only oops (e.g. WARN()/BUG()/panic()) messages worth > printing to consoles and the rest messages do not worth printing to consoles. > Existing KERN_$LOGLEVEL is too rough-grained. And this statement is exactly why I believe you are wrong. Because *I* think messages to the console is more important than messages to the logs. Several of my servers are only monitored by the console. I seldom look at the logs on those machines. This is a policy decision, and must be made by user space. Your use case is not applicable to everyone else's use case. And should not be set in stone by the kernel. -- Steve