From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/10] rcu: Temporarily assume that nohz full CPUs might not be NOCB
Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 08:50:32 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200514155032.GN2869@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200513230827.GC18303@lenoir>
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 01:08:28AM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:25:27AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 06:47:11PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > So far nohz_full CPUs had to be nocb. This requirement may change
> > > temporarily as we are working on preparing RCU to be able to toggle the
> > > nocb state of a CPU. Once that is done and nohz_full can be toggled as
> > > well dynamically, we'll restore that initial requirement.
> >
> > Would it simplify anything to make the CPU exit nohz_full first and
> > then exit rcu_nocb and vice versa in the other direction? That way the
> > assumption about nohz_full CPUs always being rcu_nocb could remain while
> > still allowing runtime changes to both states.
>
> That's the future plan but for now nohz_full can't even be exited yet.
> RCU is unlucky enough to be chosen as the starting point of this whole work :-)
But testing could still start with CPUs marked rcu_nocb but not marked
nohz_full, right? I must confess that I am a bit concerned about the
increase in state space.
> > Of course, given that setup, it would not be possible to cause a CPU to
> > exit rcu_nocb state if it was still in nohz_full state.
>
> Right.
>
> > My fear is that allowing a CPU to be in nohz_full state without also
> > being in rcu_nocb state will cause needless confusion and bug reports.
>
> Well, it should only be visible to those who work on it since there
> won't be a proper interface before we achieve the whole.
Fair point, but I am also concerned about the welfare of the people
working on it. ;-)
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-14 15:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-13 16:47 [PATCH 00/10] rcu: Allow a CPU to leave and reenter NOCB state Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 01/10] rcu: Directly lock rdp->nocb_lock on nocb code entrypoints Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-20 12:29 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-22 17:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26 15:21 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 16:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26 20:18 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 21:09 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26 21:27 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 22:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-27 0:45 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-27 0:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-04 11:41 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-04 16:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-08 12:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-09 18:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-10 13:12 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-10 14:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-10 22:12 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-10 23:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-11 1:32 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 02/10] rcu: Use direct rdp->nocb_lock operations on local calls Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 03/10] rcu: Make locking explicit in do_nocb_deferred_wakeup_common() Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-26 19:54 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 19:59 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 04/10] rcu: Implement rcu_segcblist_is_offloaded() config dependent Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 23:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 05/10] rcu: Remove useless conditional nocb unlock Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 06/10] rcu: Make nocb_cb kthread parkable Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-11 1:34 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 07/10] rcu: Temporarily assume that nohz full CPUs might not be NOCB Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 23:08 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:50 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2020-05-14 22:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 08/10] rcu: Allow to deactivate nocb on a CPU Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 22:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-14 22:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 22:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-14 22:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-26 21:20 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 22:49 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-04 13:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-11 1:32 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-11 17:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-04 13:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 09/10] rcu: Allow to re-offload a CPU that used to be nocb Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 10/10] rcu: Nocb (de)activate through sysfs Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 23:23 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 18:15 ` [PATCH 00/10] rcu: Allow a CPU to leave and reenter NOCB state Paul E. McKenney
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