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From: Sargun Dhillon <sargun@sargun.me>
To: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>,
	Matt Denton <mpdenton@google.com>,
	Chris Palmer <palmer@google.com>,
	Jeffrey Vander Stoep <jeffv@google.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: seccomp feature development
Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 07:24:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200519072451.GA3128@ircssh-2.c.rugged-nimbus-611.internal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAG48ez1LrQvR2RHD5-ZCEihL4YT1tVgoAJfGYo+M3QukumX=OQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:39:39AM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> > For user_notif, I think we need something in and around these options:
> >
> > - make a new API that explicitly follows EA struct design
> >   (and while read()/write() might be easier[4], I tend to agree with
> >   Jann and we need to stick to ioctl(): as Tycho noted, "read/write is
> >   for data". Though I wonder if read() could be used for the notifications,
> >   which ARE data, and use ioctl() for the responses?)
> 
> Just as a note: If we use read() there, we'll never be able to
> transfer things like FDs through that API.
> 
Although there is no good reason for read being able to receive FDs, there is
precedence for recvmsg being able to do this. Either way, I do not think
it's a good idea to recv file descriptors, and instead file descriptors
should be fetched via the pidfd_getfd syscall.

Injection is more complicated, and for now, I believe that "writes" should
be done via ioctl, or in the future, something like sendmsg might work.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-19  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-18 21:04 seccomp feature development Kees Cook
2020-05-18 22:39 ` Jann Horn
2020-05-19  2:48   ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-05-19 10:35     ` Christian Brauner
2020-05-19 16:18     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-05-19 21:40       ` Kees Cook
2020-05-20  1:20       ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-05-20  5:17         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-05-20  6:18           ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-05-19  7:24   ` Sargun Dhillon [this message]
2020-05-19  8:30     ` Christian Brauner
2020-06-03 19:09   ` Kees Cook
2020-05-18 22:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-19  7:09 ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-05-19 11:01   ` Christian Brauner
2020-05-19 13:42     ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-05-19 13:53       ` Aleksa Sarai
2020-05-19 10:26 ` Christian Brauner
2020-05-20  8:23   ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-05-19 14:07 ` Tycho Andersen
2020-05-20  9:05 ` Sargun Dhillon
2020-05-22 20:09 ` Sargun Dhillon

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