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From: andi@notmuch.email
To: Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Brendan Shanks <bshanks@codeweavers.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Babu Moger <Babu.Moger@amd.com>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Jason Yan <yanaijie@huawei.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: umip: AMD Ryzen 3900X, pagefault after emulate SLDT/SIDT instruction
Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 03:04:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200520010418.ippljxawcwrbp6o2@wrt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200519194320.GA25138@ranerica-svr.sc.intel.com>

On 12:43 19.05.20, Ricardo Neri wrote:
> > > Running the same executable on the exact same kernel (and userland) but
> > > on a Intel i7-8565U doesn't crash at this point. I am guessing the
> > > emulation is supposed to do something different on AMD CPUs?
> 
> I am surprised you don't see it on the Intel processor. Maybe it does
> not have UMIP. Do you see umip when you do
> 
> $ grep umip /proc/cpuinfo 

Indeed it doesn't ahve the feature. I would have assumed that it is
recent enough. Apparently not.

> > > On the Ryzen the code executes successfully after setting CONFIG_X86_UMIP=n.
> > 
> > Hi Andreas,
> > 
> > The problem is that the kernel does not emulate/spoof the SLDT instruction, only SGDT, SIDT, and SMSW.
> > SLDT and STR weren't thought to be commonly used, so emulation/spoofing wasn’t added.
> > In the last few months I have seen reports of one or two (32-bit) Windows games that use SLDT though.
> > Can you share more information about the application you’re running?
> > 
> > Maybe the best path is to add kernel emulation/spoofing for SLDT and STR on 32 and 64-bit, just to cover all the cases. It should be a pretty simple patch, I’ll start working on it.
> 
> I have a patch for this already that I wrote for testing purposes:
> 
> https://github.com/ricardon/tip/commit/1692889cb3f8accb523d44b682458e234b93be50
> 
> Perhaps it can be used as a starting point? Not sure what the spoofing
> value should be, though. Perhaps 0?

I am not entirely sure what it should return in the general case. My
assumption is that 0 might work. Maybe making it configurable like with
the other UMIP constants that I saw?

I'll give the patch a shot and try to figure out what the authors of the
code have to say about it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-20  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-19 14:38 umip: AMD Ryzen 3900X, pagefault after emulate SLDT/SIDT instruction Andreas Rammhold
2020-05-19 18:56 ` Brendan Shanks
2020-05-19 19:43   ` Ricardo Neri
2020-05-20  0:54     ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-21  0:56       ` Ricardo Neri
2020-05-21  1:16         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-20  1:04     ` andi [this message]
2020-05-23  2:17     ` Andreas Rammhold
2020-05-26 13:33       ` Ricardo Neri
2020-05-28 11:36         ` Andreas Rammhold
2020-05-20  1:08   ` andi
2020-05-23  2:21   ` andi
2020-05-20  0:17 ` H. Peter Anvin

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