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From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
	Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] dt-bindings: mailbox: add doorbell support to ARM MHU
Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 13:20:05 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200528192005.GA494874@bogus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0a50f0cf5593baeb628dc8606c523665e5e2ae6c.1589519600.git.viresh.kumar@linaro.org>

On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:47:38AM +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
> 
> Hi Rob, Arnd and Jassi,
> 
> This stuff has been doing rounds on the mailing list since several years
> now with no agreed conclusion by all the parties. And here is another
> attempt to get some feedback from everyone involved to close this once
> and for ever. Your comments will very much be appreciated.
> 
> The ARM MHU is defined here in the TRM [1] for your reference, which
> states following:
> 
> 	"The MHU drives the signal using a 32-bit register, with all 32
> 	bits logically ORed together. The MHU provides a set of
> 	registers to enable software to set, clear, and check the status
> 	of each of the bits of this register independently.  The use of
> 	32 bits for each interrupt line enables software to provide more
> 	information about the source of the interrupt. For example, each
> 	bit of the register can be associated with a type of event that
> 	can contribute to raising the interrupt."
> 
> On few other platforms, like qcom, similar doorbell mechanism is present
> with separate interrupt for each of the bits (that's how I understood
> it), while in case of ARM MHU, there is a single interrupt line for all
> the 32 bits. Also in case of ARM MHU, these registers and interrupts
> have 3 copies for different priority levels, i.e. low priority
> non-secure, high priority non-secure and secure channels.
> 
> For ARM MHU, both the dt bindings and the Linux driver support 3
> channels for the different priorities right now and support sending a 32
> bit data on every transfer in a locked fashion, i.e. only one transfer
> can be done at once and the other have to wait for it to finish first.
> 
> Here are the point of view of the parties involved on this subject:
> 
> Jassi's viewpoint:
> 
> - Virtualization of channels should be discouraged in software based on
>   specific usecases of the application. This may invite other mailbox
>   driver authors to ask for doing virtualization in their drivers.
> 
> - In mailbox's terminology, every channel is equivalent to a signal,
>   since there is only one signal generated here by the MHU, there should
>   be only one channel per priority level.
> 
> - The clients should send data (of just setting 1 bit or many in the 32
>   bit word) using the existing mechanism as the delays due to
>   serialization shouldn't be significant anyway.
> 
> - The driver supports 90% of the users with the current implementation
>   and it shouldn't be extended to support doorbell and implement two
>   different modes by changing value of #mbox-cells field in bindings.
> 
> Sudeep (ARM) and myself as well to some extent:
> 
> - The hardware gives us the capability to write the register in
>   parallel, i.e. we can write 0x800 and 0x400 together without any
>   software locks, and so these 32 bits should be considered as separate
>   channel even if only one interrupt is issued by the hardware finally.
>   This shouldn't be called as virtualization of the channels, as the
>   hardware supports this (as clearly mentioned in the TRM) and it takes
>   care of handling the signal properly.
> 
> - With serialization, if we use only one channel as today at every
>   priority, if there are 5 requests to send signal to the receiver and
>   the dvfs request is the last one in queue (which may be called from
>   scheduler's hot path with fast switching), it unnecessarily needs to
>   wait for the first four transfers to finish due to the software
>   locking imposed by the mailbox framework. This adds additional delay,
>   maybe of few ms only, which isn't required by the hardware but just by
>   the software and few ms can be important in scheduler's hotpath.
> 
> - With the current approach it isn't possible to assign different bits
>   (or doorbell numbers) to clients from DT and the only way of doing
>   that without adding new bindings is by extending #mbox-cells to accept
>   a value of 2 as done in this patch.
> 
> Jassi and Sudeep, I hope I was able to represent both the view points
> properly here. Please correct me if I have made a mistake here.
> 
> This is it. It would be nice to get the views of everyone now on this
> and how should this be handled.

I am perfectly fine with adding another cell which seems appropriate 
here. You can have 5 cells for all I care if that makes sense for 
the h/w. That has nothing to do with the Linux design. Whether Linux 
requires serializing mailbox accesses is a separate issue. On that side, 
it seems silly to not allow driving the h/w in the most efficient way 
possible.

Rob

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-28 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-15  5:17 [RFC] dt-bindings: mailbox: add doorbell support to ARM MHU Viresh Kumar
2020-05-15 16:46 ` Jassi Brar
2020-05-18  7:35   ` Viresh Kumar
2020-05-19  0:53     ` Jassi Brar
2020-05-19  4:39       ` Viresh Kumar
2020-05-19  1:29 ` Bjorn Andersson
2020-05-19  3:40   ` Viresh Kumar
2020-05-19  4:05     ` Jassi Brar
2020-06-03 18:31       ` Sudeep Holla
2020-06-03 18:42         ` Jassi Brar
2020-06-03 18:28   ` Sudeep Holla
2020-05-28 19:20 ` Rob Herring [this message]
2020-05-29  4:07   ` Viresh Kumar
2020-06-03 18:04     ` Sudeep Holla
2020-06-03 18:17       ` Sudeep Holla
2020-06-04  5:59         ` Viresh Kumar
2020-06-04  8:28           ` Sudeep Holla
2020-06-03 18:32       ` Jassi Brar
2020-06-04  9:20         ` Sudeep Holla
2020-06-04 15:15           ` Jassi Brar
2020-06-05  4:56             ` Sudeep Holla
2020-06-05  6:30               ` Jassi Brar
2020-06-05  8:58                 ` Sudeep Holla
2020-06-05 15:42                   ` Jassi Brar
2020-06-10  9:33                     ` Viresh Kumar
2020-06-11 10:00                       ` Sudeep Holla
2020-06-12  0:34                         ` Jassi Brar
2020-06-12  5:28                           ` Viresh Kumar
2020-09-08  9:14                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-08  9:27                               ` Viresh Kumar
2020-09-08 13:26                               ` Sudeep Holla
2020-09-09  3:23                               ` Jassi Brar
2020-09-09  4:46                                 ` Viresh Kumar
2020-09-09  9:31                                 ` Sudeep Holla
2020-05-29  5:20   ` Jassi Brar
2020-05-29  6:27     ` Viresh Kumar

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