From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>,
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] twist: allow converting pr_devel()/pr_debug() into snprintf()
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 10:17:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200529081748.GC27273@linux-b0ei> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgz=7MGxxX-tmMmdCsKyYJkuyxNc-4uLP=e_eEV=OzUaw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu 2020-05-28 12:50:35, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 8:17 AM Tetsuo Handa
> <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp> wrote:
> >
> > CONFIG_TWIST_FOR_SYZKALLER_TESTING is meant for linux-next only.
> > But CONFIG_TWIST_KERNEL_BEHAVIOR is meant for Linus's tree.
>
> I really absolutely still detest this all. I don't see the point. The
> naming is completely random (both "twist" and then options like
> "TWIST_FOR_SYZKALLER_TESTING" that have no conceptual meaning.
>
> I still don't understand why this small set of random options couldn't
> just be kernel options that get set on the command line, and that have
> independent and sane and explainable behavior? Why this odd mentality
> of "syzkaller is special"?
I am afraid that many of them could not be normal options. They change or
break some behavior that is necessary by seriously used system.
> I've complained about this whole thing before. I'm getting really fed
> up with this whole concept of "magic crazy config options".
Just to make my role clear in this saga.
I am focused on the change of pr_debug() behavior. I do _not_ believe
that it is worth it. But I wanted to give fuzzer guys a chance to get
some data.
This is why I offered to push hacky patch into linux-next via printk
tree to get fuzzers fed. Such a patch would change the behavior only
for the fuzzer (with the crazy config enabled) and it would be there
only for a limited time.
I personally do _not_ have a good feeling about having such hacks in
upstream kernel. But I do not feel in position to decide about it.
I wanted to solve this question later if there would have been
anything to upstream.
I am _not_ going to push any twists, in the current form,
upstream via printk tree.
Best Regards,
Petr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-29 8:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-24 14:50 [PATCH] twist: allow converting pr_devel()/pr_debug() into printk(KERN_DEBUG) Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-24 17:38 ` Joe Perches
2020-05-24 19:18 ` Ondrej Mosnacek
2020-05-25 5:03 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-25 6:07 ` Joe Perches
2020-05-25 7:38 ` Dmitry Vyukov
2020-05-25 8:42 ` Petr Mladek
2020-05-25 9:11 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-05-25 10:43 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-27 8:37 ` Petr Mladek
2020-05-27 10:13 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-27 15:55 ` Petr Mladek
2020-05-27 23:33 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-28 6:56 ` [PATCH v2] twist: allow converting pr_devel()/pr_debug() into snprintf() Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-28 11:06 ` Petr Mladek
2020-05-28 15:16 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-28 19:10 ` Andrew Morton
2020-05-28 19:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-28 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-29 0:07 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-29 0:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-29 2:13 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-29 2:24 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-05-29 4:47 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-29 13:26 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-06-03 11:03 ` twist: allow disabling reboot request Tetsuo Handa
2020-06-03 12:44 ` Petr Mladek
2020-06-03 13:35 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-06-04 10:21 ` Petr Mladek
2020-06-08 7:48 ` [PATCH v2] twist: allow converting pr_devel()/pr_debug() into snprintf() Dmitry Vyukov
2020-06-08 10:30 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-06-08 11:31 ` Andrey Konovalov
2020-05-29 8:17 ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2020-06-08 16:39 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-05-28 10:59 ` [PATCH] twist: allow converting pr_devel()/pr_debug() into printk(KERN_DEBUG) Petr Mladek
2020-05-28 11:33 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-28 12:14 ` Petr Mladek
2020-05-28 14:13 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-28 17:08 ` Joe Perches
2020-05-29 2:04 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-05-29 5:06 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-27 9:59 ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-27 13:41 ` Tetsuo Handa
2020-05-27 12:37 ` kbuild test robot
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