From: Qais Yousef <qais.yousef@arm.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Iurii Zaikin <yzaikin@google.com>,
Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>,
Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@matbug.net>,
Pavan Kondeti <pkondeti@codeaurora.org>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched/uclamp: Add a new sysctl to control RT default boost value
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 17:04:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200529160423.qsrbzxtcx2jslljk@e107158-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200529100806.GA3070@suse.de>
On 05/29/20 11:08, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 06:11:12PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > FWIW, I think you're referring to Mel's notice in OSPM regarding the overhead.
> > > Trying to see what goes on in there.
> >
> > Indeed, that one. The fact that regular distros cannot enable this
> > feature due to performance overhead is unfortunate. It means there is a
> > lot less potential for this stuff.
>
> During that talk, I was a vague about the cost, admitted I had not looked
> too closely at mainline performance and had since deleted the data given
> that the problem was first spotted in early April. If I heard someone
> else making statements like I did at the talk, I would consider it a bit
> vague, potentially FUD, possibly wrong and worth rechecking myself. In
> terms of distributions "cannot enable this", we could but I was unwilling
> to pay the cost for a feature no one has asked for yet. If they had, I
> would endevour to put it behind static branches and disable it by default
> (like what happened for PSI). I was contacted offlist about my comments
> at OSPM and gathered new data to respond properly. For the record, here
> is an editted version of my response;
I had this impression too that's why I had a rather humble attempt.
[...]
> # Event 'cycles:ppp'
> #
> # Baseline Delta Abs Shared Object Symbol
> # ........ ......... ........................ ..............................................
> #
> 9.59% -2.87% [kernel.vmlinux] [k] poll_idle
> 0.19% +1.85% [kernel.vmlinux] [k] activate_task
> +1.17% [kernel.vmlinux] [k] dequeue_task
> +0.89% [kernel.vmlinux] [k] update_rq_clock.part.73
> 3.88% +0.73% [kernel.vmlinux] [k] try_to_wake_up
> 3.17% +0.68% [kernel.vmlinux] [k] __schedule
> 1.16% -0.60% [kernel.vmlinux] [k] __update_load_avg_cfs_rq
> 2.20% -0.54% [kernel.vmlinux] [k] resched_curr
> 2.08% -0.29% [kernel.vmlinux] [k] _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
> 0.44% -0.29% [kernel.vmlinux] [k] cpus_share_cache
> 1.13% +0.23% [kernel.vmlinux] [k] _raw_spin_lock_bh
>
> A lot of the uclamp functions appear to be inlined so it is not be
> particularly obvious from a raw profile but it shows up in the annotated
> profile in activate_task and dequeue_task for example. In the case of
> dequeue_task, uclamp_rq_dec_id() is extremely expensive according to the
> annotated profile.
>
> I'm afraid I did not dig into this deeply once I knew I could just disable
> it even within the distribution.
Could by any chance the vmlinux (with debug symbols hopefully) and perf.dat are
still lying around to share?
I could send you a link to drop them somewhere.
Thanks
--
Qais Yousef
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-29 16:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-11 15:40 [PATCH 1/2] sched/uclamp: Add a new sysctl to control RT default boost value Qais Yousef
2020-05-11 15:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] Documentation/sysctl: Document uclamp sysctl knobs Qais Yousef
2020-05-11 17:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/uclamp: Add a new sysctl to control RT default boost value Qais Yousef
2020-05-12 2:10 ` Pavan Kondeti
2020-05-12 11:46 ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-15 11:08 ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-05-18 8:31 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-05-18 16:49 ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-28 13:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-28 15:58 ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-28 16:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-28 16:51 ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-28 18:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-28 19:08 ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-05-28 19:20 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-05-29 9:11 ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-29 10:21 ` Mel Gorman
2020-05-29 15:11 ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-29 16:02 ` Mel Gorman
2020-05-29 16:05 ` Qais Yousef
2020-05-29 10:08 ` Mel Gorman
2020-05-29 16:04 ` Qais Yousef [this message]
2020-05-29 16:57 ` Mel Gorman
2020-06-02 16:46 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-06-03 8:29 ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-06-03 10:10 ` Mel Gorman
2020-06-03 14:59 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-06-03 16:52 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-04 12:14 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-06-05 10:45 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-09 15:29 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-06-08 12:31 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-08 13:06 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-06-08 14:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-06-11 10:13 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-09 17:10 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-06-11 10:24 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-11 12:01 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-06-23 15:44 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-24 8:45 ` Vincent Guittot
2020-06-05 7:55 ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-06-05 11:32 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-05 13:27 ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-06-03 9:40 ` Mel Gorman
2020-06-03 12:41 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-04 13:40 ` Mel Gorman
2020-06-05 10:58 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-11 10:58 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-16 11:08 ` Qais Yousef
2020-06-16 13:56 ` Lukasz Luba
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-04-03 12:30 Qais Yousef
2020-04-14 18:21 ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-04-15 7:46 ` Patrick Bellasi
2020-04-20 15:04 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-20 8:24 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-20 15:19 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-21 0:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-21 11:16 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-21 11:23 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-20 14:50 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-15 10:11 ` Quentin Perret
2020-04-20 15:08 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-20 8:29 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-20 15:13 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-21 11:18 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-21 11:27 ` Qais Yousef
2020-04-22 10:59 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2020-04-22 13:13 ` Qais Yousef
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