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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [patch V9 00/39] x86/entry: Rework leftovers (was part V)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 17:55:26 +0200
Message-ID: <20200604155526.GE3976@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrV89Sat5Dm5YTF_pcxMMrxygEwa78trpONm8MVMGZtWPg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 08:42:52AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:

> x86 is not an architecture.  x86 is a gauntlet through which operating
> system developers must run.

That made my day :-)

> I think we can tolerate this particular mess -- can't we just say that
> a BUS LOCK DEBUG EXCEPTION is fatal if it came from kernel mode?  So
> what if it nests inside #DB -- we can survive an oops from a corrupt
> context like that.

Yes, SLD or this new thing is unconditionally fatal when from kernel
space. As long as we can get to the OOPS with our stacks completely
wrecked, we should be good I think.

We'll just need to make this one of the very first things is checks for,
to minimize the amount of code ran before OOPSing, so at to minimize the
risk for recursive exceptions.

All signs of excellent design, I'm sure.

  reply index

Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-21 20:05 Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 01/39] nmi, tracing: Make hardware latency tracing noinstr safe Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:12   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 02/39] rcu: Abstract out rcu_irq_enter_check_tick() from rcu_nmi_enter() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 21:03   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-21 21:25     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-26  8:14     ` Ingo Molnar
2020-05-26 15:34       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-27  8:12   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 03/39] rcu: Provide rcu_irq_exit_check_preempt() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:12   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 04/39] x86/entry: Provide idtentry_entry/exit_cond_rcu() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 21:06   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26  8:23   ` Ingo Molnar
2020-05-26  8:58     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 05/39] x86/entry: Provide idtentry_enter/exit_user() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:12   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 06/39] x86/idtentry: Switch to conditional RCU handling Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 07/39] x86/entry: Cleanup idtentry_enter/exit() leftovers Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] x86/entry: Clean up " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 08/39] genirq: Provide irq_enter/exit_rcu() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 09/39] genirq: Provide __irq_enter/exit_raw() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 10/39] x86/entry: Provide helpers for execute on irqstack Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] x86/entry: Provide helpers for executing on the irqstack tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-06-05 17:18   ` [patch V9 10/39] x86/entry: Provide helpers for execute on irqstack Qian Cai
2020-06-05 17:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-05 17:52       ` Qian Cai
2020-06-07 11:59         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-06-07 18:27           ` Qian Cai
2020-06-08 16:01       ` Qian Cai
2020-06-08 22:20         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-06-09  2:32           ` Qian Cai
2020-06-09 20:33             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-06-09 20:50               ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-06-10 12:38                 ` Qian Cai
2020-06-10 19:38                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-06-13 13:55                     ` Qian Cai
2020-06-13 14:03                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-06-13 21:41                         ` Qian Cai
2020-06-14  8:59                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 11/39] x86/entry/64: Move do_softirq_own_stack() to C Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 12/39] x86/entry: Split out idtentry_exit_cond_resched() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 13/39] x86/entry: Switch XEN/PV hypercall entry to IDTENTRY Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-22 18:32   ` [patch V9-1 " Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-26  7:44     ` Jürgen Groß
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 14/39] x86/entry/64: Simplify idtentry_body Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 15/39] x86/entry: Switch page fault exception to IDTENTRY_RAW Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 16/39] x86/entry: Remove the transition leftovers Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 17/39] x86/entry: Change exit path of xen_failsafe_callback Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 18/39] x86/entry/64: Remove error_exit Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] x86/entry/64: Remove error_exit() tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 19/39] x86/entry/32: Remove common_exception Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] x86/entry/32: Remove common_exception() tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 20/39] x86/irq: Use generic irq_regs implementation Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-26 18:39   ` damian
2020-05-28  9:50     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-28 20:20       ` damian
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 21/39] x86/irq: Convey vector as argument and not in ptregs Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-22 19:34   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-24 17:29   ` [patch V9 21/39] " Alexander Graf
2020-08-25 10:28     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-08-25 23:17       ` Alexander Graf
2020-08-25 23:41         ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-08-26  0:04           ` Alexander Graf
2020-08-26  1:03             ` Brian Gerst
2020-08-26  0:55           ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 22/39] x86/irq: Rework handle_irq() for 64bit Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] x86/irq: Rework handle_irq() for 64-bit tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 23/39] x86/entry: Add IRQENTRY_IRQ macro Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 24/39] x86/entry: Use idtentry for interrupts Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 25/39] x86/entry: Provide IDTENTRY_SYSVEC Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 26/39] x86/entry: Convert APIC interrupts to IDTENTRY_SYSVEC Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 27/39] x86/entry: Convert SMP system vectors " Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 28/39] x86/entry: Convert various system vectors Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 29/39] x86/entry: Convert KVM vectors to IDTENTRY_SYSVEC* Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 30/39] x86/entry: Convert various hypervisor vectors to IDTENTRY_SYSVEC Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-26  9:29   ` Wei Liu
2020-05-27  1:46   ` Boqun Feng
2020-05-27  8:38     ` Wei Liu
2020-05-27 12:09       ` Wei Liu
2020-05-27 23:06         ` Boqun Feng
2020-05-27 12:30       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 31/39] x86/entry: Convert XEN hypercall vector " Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 32/39] x86/entry: Convert reschedule interrupt to IDTENTRY_SYSVEC_SIMPLE Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 33/39] x86/entry: Remove the apic/BUILD interrupt leftovers Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 34/39] x86/entry/64: Remove IRQ stack switching ASM Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 35/39] x86/entry: Make enter_from_user_mode() static Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 36/39] x86/entry/32: Remove redundant irq disable code Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 37/39] x86/entry/64: Remove TRACE_IRQS_*_DEBUG Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 38/39] x86/entry: Move paranoid irq tracing out of ASM code Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-21 20:05 ` [patch V9 39/39] x86/entry: Remove the TRACE_IRQS cruft Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-27  8:11   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-22  7:20 ` [patch V9 00/39] x86/entry: Rework leftovers (was part V) Andrew Cooper
2020-05-22 21:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-03 19:18     ` Andrew Cooper
2020-06-04 13:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-04 13:29         ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-06-04 13:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-06-04 15:42             ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-06-04 15:55               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2020-05-22 14:26 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2020-05-22 17:47   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-22 18:08     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-26  4:33 ` Andy Lutomirski

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