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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Cc: Stanimir Varbanov <stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Jim Cromie <jim.cromie@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/7] Documentation: dynamic-debug: Add description of level bitmask
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 09:09:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200610070949.GB1923109@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f94b2abe85d7c849ca76677ff5a1e0b272bb3bdf.camel@perches.com>

On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 11:35:31PM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Wed, 2020-06-10 at 08:31 +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 09:58:07AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2020-06-09 at 13:16 +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > What is wrong with the existing control of dynamic
> > > > debug messages that you want to add another type of arbitrary grouping
> > > > to it? 
> > > 
> > > There is no existing grouping mechanism.
> > 
> > info/warn/err/dbg is what I am referring to.
> > 
> > > Many drivers and some subsystems used an internal one
> > > before dynamic debug.
> > > 
> > > $ git grep "MODULE_PARM.*\bdebug\b"|wc -l
> > > 501
> > 
> > Yes, and it's horrid and needs to be cleaned up, not added to.
> 
> Or unified so driver authors have a standardized mechanism
> rather than reinventing or doing things differently.

But each "level" you all come up with will be intrepreted differently
per driver, causing total confusion (like we have today.)  Try to make
it better by just removing that mess.

> > In the beginning, yes, adding loads of different types of debugging
> > options to a driver is needed by the author, but by the time it is added
> > to the kernel, all of that should be able to be removed and only a
> > single "enable debug" should be all that is needed.
> 
> No one does that.

We did that for USB drivers a decade ago, it can be done.

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-10  7:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-09 10:45 [PATCH v3 0/7] Venus dynamic debug Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 10:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] Documentation: dynamic-debug: Add description of level bitmask Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:09   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-09 11:16   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-09 16:58     ` Joe Perches
2020-06-09 17:42       ` Edward Cree
2020-06-09 17:56         ` Joe Perches
2020-06-09 18:08           ` Edward Cree
2020-06-10  6:31       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-10  6:35         ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10  7:09           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2020-06-10  7:24             ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10 10:29     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-10 12:26       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-09 10:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] dynamic_debug: Group debug messages by " Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 12:27   ` Petr Mladek
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] dev_printk: Add dev_dbg_level macro over dynamic one Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] printk: Add pr_debug_level " Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:12   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] venus: Add debugfs interface to set firmware log level Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:12   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-11 11:51     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] venus: Make debug infrastructure more flexible Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:14   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-10 13:29     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-10 13:37       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-10 19:49         ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10 20:23           ` Joe Perches
2020-06-11  6:26             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-11  6:42               ` Joe Perches
2020-06-11 10:52                 ` Daniel Thompson
2020-06-11 11:31                   ` Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-11 12:18                     ` Daniel Thompson
2020-06-11 21:19                       ` jim.cromie
2020-06-11 21:59                         ` Jason Baron
2020-06-11 22:33                           ` Joe Perches
2020-06-12  0:08                         ` jim.cromie
2020-06-10 18:32   ` WIP generic module->debug_flags and dynamic_debug jim.cromie
2020-06-10 20:24     ` Joe Perches
2020-06-11 11:26     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-06-11 14:09       ` jim.cromie
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] venus: Add a debugfs file for SSR trigger Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:13 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Venus dynamic debug Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-09 16:03   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-09 16:49     ` Joe Perches
2020-06-09 21:21       ` jim.cromie
2020-06-09 22:23         ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10  1:58           ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10  3:10           ` jim.cromie
2020-06-09 16:40 ` Joe Perches

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