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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/10] rcu: Directly lock rdp->nocb_lock on nocb code entrypoints
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 00:12:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200610221245.GA3833@lenoir> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200610140210.GT4455@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72>

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 07:02:10AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> And just to argue against myself...
> 
> Another approach is to maintain explicit multiple states for each
> ->cblist, perhaps something like this:
> 
> 1.	In softirq.  Transition code advances to next.
> 2.	To no-CB 1.  Either GP or CB kthread for the transitioning
> 	CPU advances to next.  Note that the fact that the
> 	transition code runs on the transitioning CPU means that
> 	the RCU softirq handler doesn't need to be involved.
> 3.	To no-CB 2.  Either GP or CB kthread for the transitioning
> 	CPU advances to next.

Just to clarify, if GP has set NO_CB2 in (2), we want CB to set NO_CB3
in 3), right? OTOH if CB has set NO_CB2 in (2), we want GP to set NO_CB3
in (3), right?

The point being to make sure that both threads acknowledge the transition?

> 4.	To no-CB 3.  Transitioning code advances to next.
> 	At this point, the no-CBs setup is fully functional.

And softirq can stop processing callbacks from that point on.

> 5.	No-CB.  Transitioning code advances to next.
> 	Again, the fact that the transitioning code is running
> 	on the transitioning CPU with interrupts disabled means
> 	that the RCU softirq handler need not be explicitly
> 	involved.
> 6.	To softirq 1.  The RCU softirq handler for the transitioning
> 	CPU advances to next.
> 	At this point, the RCU softirq handler is processing callbacks.
> 7.	To softirq 2.  Either GP or CB kthread for the transitioning
> 	CPU advances to next.
> 	At this point, the softirq handler is processing callbacks.

SOFTIRQ2 should be part of what happens in SOFTIRQ1. The transitioning
CPU sets SOFTIRQ1, which is immediately visible by local softirqs,
and wakes up CB/GP. CB/GP sets SOFTIRQ2, CB/GP sets SOFTIRQ3 and
we go back to transitioning code that sets IN_SOFTIRQ.

Or did I miss something?


> 8.	To softirq 3.  Either GP or CB kthread for the transitioning
> 	CPU advances to next.
> 	At this point, the no-CBs setup is fully shut down.
> 9.	To softirq 4.  Transitioning code advances to next,
> 	which is the first, "In softirq".
> 	(This one -might- be unnecessary, but...)
> 
> All transitions are of course with the ->nocb_lock held.
> 
> When there is only one CPU during early boot near rcu_init() time,
> the transition from "In softirq" to "No-CB" can remain be instantaneous.
> 
> This has the advantage of not slowing things down just because there
> is an RCU callback flood in progress.  It also uses an explicit
> protocol that should (give or take bugs) maintain full safety both
> in protection of ->cblist and in dealing with RCU callback floods.
> 
> Thoughts?

Agreed. And I really like that it details the whole process in a very
explicit way.

Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-10 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-13 16:47 [PATCH 00/10] rcu: Allow a CPU to leave and reenter NOCB state Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 01/10] rcu: Directly lock rdp->nocb_lock on nocb code entrypoints Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-20 12:29   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-22 17:57     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26 15:21       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 16:29         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26 20:18           ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 21:09             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-26 21:27               ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 22:29                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-27  0:45                   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-27  0:58                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-04 11:41       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-04 16:36         ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-08 12:57           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-09 18:02             ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-10 13:12               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-10 14:02                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-10 22:12                   ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2020-06-10 23:21                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-11  1:32                       ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 02/10] rcu: Use direct rdp->nocb_lock operations on local calls Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 03/10] rcu: Make locking explicit in do_nocb_deferred_wakeup_common() Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-26 19:54   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 19:59   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 04/10] rcu: Implement rcu_segcblist_is_offloaded() config dependent Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:20   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 23:03     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:47       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 05/10] rcu: Remove useless conditional nocb unlock Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 06/10] rcu: Make nocb_cb kthread parkable Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-11  1:34   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 07/10] rcu: Temporarily assume that nohz full CPUs might not be NOCB Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:25   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 23:08     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:50       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-14 22:49         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 08/10] rcu: Allow to deactivate nocb on a CPU Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:38   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 22:45     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:47       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-14 22:30         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 22:47           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-14 22:55             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-26 21:20   ` Joel Fernandes
2020-05-26 22:49     ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-04 13:10       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-06-11  1:32         ` Joel Fernandes
2020-06-11 17:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-06-04 13:14     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 09/10] rcu: Allow to re-offload a CPU that used to be nocb Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:41   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 16:47 ` [PATCH 10/10] rcu: Nocb (de)activate through sysfs Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-13 18:42   ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 23:23     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2020-05-14 15:51       ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-05-13 18:15 ` [PATCH 00/10] rcu: Allow a CPU to leave and reenter NOCB state Paul E. McKenney

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