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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzej.p@collabora.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Input: document inhibiting
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 15:35:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200623133512.GA2783@bug> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200617101822.8558-1-andrzej.p@collabora.com>

Hi!

> +Inhibiting input devices
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +Inhibiting a device means ignoring input events from it. As such it is about maintaining
> +relationships with input handlers - either already existing relationships, or relationships
> +to be established while the device is in inhibited state.
> +
> +If a device is inhibited, no input handler will receive events from it.
> +
> +The fact that nobody wants events from the device is exploited further, by calling device's
> +close() (if there are users) and open() (if there are users) on inhibit and uninhibit
> +operations, respectively. Indeed, the meaning of close() is to stop providing events
> +to the input core and that of open() is to start providing events to the input core.
> +
> +Calling the device's close() method on inhibit (if there are users) allows the driver
> +to save power. Either by directly powering down the device or by releasing the
> +runtime-pm reference it got in open() when the driver is using runtime-pm.
> +
> +Inhibiting and uninhibiting are orthogonal to opening and closing the device by input
> +handlers. Userspace might want to inhibit a device in anticipation before any handler is
> +positively matched against it.

Ok.

> +Inhibiting and uninhibiting are orthogonal to device's being a wakeup source, too. 
> Being a +wakeup source plays a role when the system is sleeping, not when the system is 
> operating. +How drivers should program their interaction between inhibiting, sleeping 
> and being a wakeup +source is driver-specific. + +Taking the analogy with the network 

I don't believe making interaction driver-specific is good idea. We should decide
what reasonable behaviour is and then make drivers implement that...

Best regards,
									Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-23 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20200604072853.GP89269@dtor-ws>
2020-06-05 17:33 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33   ` [PATCH v3 1/7] Input: add input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33   ` [PATCH v3 2/7] Input: use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33   ` [PATCH v3 3/7] ACPI: button: Access input device's users under appropriate mutex Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33   ` [PATCH v3 4/7] ACPI: button: Use input_device_enabled() helper Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33   ` [PATCH v3 5/7] iio: adc: exynos: Use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 19:49     ` Michał Mirosław
2020-06-05 17:33   ` [PATCH v3 6/7] platform/x86: thinkpad_acpi: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:33   ` [PATCH v3 7/7] Input: Add "inhibited" property Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-05 17:41     ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-08 11:22       ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-08 11:22         ` [PATCH v4 1/7] Input: add input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-03  6:25           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22         ` [PATCH v4 2/7] Input: use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-03  6:26           ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]           ` <CGME20201207133237eucas1p26f8484944760a14e51dc7353ed33cd28@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2020-12-07 13:32             ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-12-07 15:50               ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-12-08 10:05                 ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-12-09  6:37                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-11  7:09                     ` [PATCH] Input: cyapa - do not call input_device_enabled from power mode handler Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-11  8:22                       ` Marek Szyprowski
2020-12-11  8:31                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22         ` [PATCH v4 3/7] ACPI: button: Access input device's users under appropriate mutex Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-24 15:00           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-25  5:23             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-25 10:55               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-10-05  5:08                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22         ` [PATCH v4 4/7] ACPI: button: Use input_device_enabled() helper Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-25  5:24           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-10-05  5:06             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08 11:22         ` [PATCH v4 5/7] iio: adc: exynos: Use input_device_enabled() Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-10  1:28           ` Michał Mirosław
2020-06-10  7:52             ` [FIXED PATCH " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-08 11:22         ` [PATCH v4 6/7] platform/x86: thinkpad_acpi: " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-08 11:22         ` [PATCH v4 7/7] Input: Add "inhibited" property Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-10-05 18:10           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-10-06 13:04             ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-10-07  1:11               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-10-07  1:12                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-12-03  6:26                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-10  9:49         ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Hans de Goede
2020-06-10 10:38           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-10 13:12             ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-10 13:21               ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-10 13:41                 ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-12  8:30                   ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-12  8:47                     ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-16 17:29                     ` [PATCH] Input: document inhibiting Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-16 17:38                       ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-17  7:44                       ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-17 10:18                         ` [PATCH v2] " Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-17 10:21                           ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-17 16:52                           ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-23 13:35                           ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2020-12-03  6:27                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-10 14:01                 ` [PATCH v4 0/7] Support inhibiting input devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-06-10 13:52             ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-10 18:28             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-12  8:14               ` Hans de Goede
2020-06-12  8:17         ` Hans de Goede
2020-08-03 14:40           ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz
2020-06-07 20:24   ` [PATCH v3 " Pavel Machek
2020-06-08  5:37     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2020-06-08  9:28       ` Andrzej Pietrasiewicz

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