From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Damien Le Moal <Damien.LeMoal@wdc.com>
Cc: Simon Arlott <simon@octiron.net>,
"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scsi: sd: stop SSD (non-rotational) disks before reboot
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 15:36:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200623133618.GE2783@bug> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR04MB37511505492E9EC6A245CFB1E79B0@CY4PR04MB3751.namprd04.prod.outlook.com>
Hi!
> > I need to use "reboot=p" on my desktop because one of the PCIe devices
> > does not appear after a warm boot. This results in a very cold boot
> > because the BIOS turns the PSU off and on.
> >
> > The scsi sd shutdown process does not send a stop command to disks
> > before the reboot happens (stop commands are only sent for a shutdown).
> >
> > The result is that all of my SSDs experience a sudden power loss on
> > every reboot, which is undesirable behaviour. These events are recorded
> > in the SMART attributes.
>
> Why is it undesirable for an SSD ? The sequence you are describing is not
> different from doing "shutdown -h now" and then pressing down the power button
> again immediately after power is cut...
Many SSDs are buggy, and will eventually corrupt themselves if you do enough
sudden power loss experiments.
HDDs don't like their power cut, either. You can hear the difference
between normal power off and power cut...
> > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
This needs lot more testing before going to stable.
Thanks,
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-06-23 13:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-17 18:49 [PATCH] scsi: sd: stop SSD (non-rotational) disks before reboot Simon Arlott
2020-06-17 19:19 ` Bart Van Assche
2020-06-17 19:32 ` Simon Arlott
2020-06-18 7:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-18 12:25 ` Simon Arlott
2020-06-18 13:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-07-05 21:31 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2020-07-07 10:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-06-18 8:36 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-18 12:25 ` Simon Arlott
2020-06-18 23:31 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-28 18:23 ` Simon Arlott
2020-06-30 1:05 ` Damien Le Moal
2020-06-23 13:36 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2020-06-28 18:22 ` Simon Arlott
2020-06-23 20:42 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2020-06-28 18:31 ` Simon Arlott
2020-06-28 19:42 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2020-06-30 3:31 ` Ming Lei
2020-07-02 21:16 ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-03 14:13 ` David Laight
2020-07-04 11:49 ` Pavel Machek
2020-07-05 22:19 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
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