From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=3.0 tests=FAKE_REPLY_C, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69ED9C433E0 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D80206DF for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728672AbgGFI4w (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Jul 2020 04:56:52 -0400 Received: from vmicros1.altlinux.org ([194.107.17.57]:57602 "EHLO vmicros1.altlinux.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728321AbgGFI4u (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Jul 2020 04:56:50 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 475 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Mon, 06 Jul 2020 04:56:47 EDT Received: from imap.altlinux.org (imap.altlinux.org [194.107.17.38]) by vmicros1.altlinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E636372CC6C; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 11:48:50 +0300 (MSK) Received: by imap.altlinux.org (Postfix, from userid 705) id B3DAB4A4AEF; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 11:48:50 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 11:48:50 +0300 From: Michael Shigorin To: Dan Williams , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, James Bottomley Cc: Jonathan Corbet , Kees Cook , Chris Mason , Greg Kroah-Hartman Subject: Re: [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Message-ID: <20200706084850.GT25779@imap.altlinux.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi guys, do you think playing with words will really get you anywhere or help anyone? > +On the triviality of replacing words You're not going to make white black, make a native African white, or fix age-old crimes by this "triviality". You're only going to sort of please those who actually hate you -- and everyone creative -- because they envy. Or rather subdue to their twisted will (what's next on the list, cannibalism aproval extorted from you?). Have you seen this post by a teacher? https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest/comments/gulna2/i_used_to_teach_in_a_black_inner_city_school/ Do you believe that a typical late-USSRish quota system for those who do not want to learn will help them learn? I'd rather start with helping those who DO want to learn by protecting them from their disruptive environment that pulls them back into morass. That whole "inclusivity" agenda is extremely toxic and hypocritical -- this king is so naked that it takes a late Soviet-style propaganda and party-bashing to make people shut up and not even confess that a black criminal's life might only be an excuse and not the reason to murder and pillage zounds of other people of any skin color -- with only some black people daring to point out that the said criminal was once threating a pregnant black woman with his gun aimed at her baby not yet even born, for example. That orwellish "inclusivity" that excludes on intent, ill-meaning "goodwill", silencing "free speech" is what seems to be going to bury the country where many of you work and live. I wouldn't say I wish USA good health and good luck -- it is the country that ruined USSR on intent and that ruined former Ukraine on intent (I used to live in Kiev since early 1980s up till 2014 when USA-made nazi coup destroyed the country). But I should at least warn you that you're playing with demon core, not even with fire; you're rushing to support moral rapists when you could at least stay where you are. I write that as a person made in USSR back in 1979, just in case. It was still Russia, but I remember those kitchen talks that are no more needed. And I remember a "why do you learn?" question back in 1993. You can argue and call me an intolerant liar, welcome. Time will tell and you have no power over it, comrades. PS: those who find this kind of abuse unacceptable are welcome to Russia if they fail to protect their homeland -- we've learned it all too well already, so we *do* value our freedom -- and stand by it. Look for Innopolis. PPS: James, kudos to you! Prepare for your share of "democratic shelling" though. Hope you stand. -- š---- WBR, Michael Shigorin / http://altlinux.org šš------ http://opennet.ru / http://anna-news.info